[G-Dub]

My SYM HD200 has two holes on the variator for the holder pins to fit into...no muss, no fuss. Wish they all had this. Had to buy a special Honda tool for the Helix, pictured below. I wonder what the chances are that the spacing is the same for the Burgman?

EDIT: Spacing is the same but the pins are too large to fit between the fins on the Burgman so it DOES NOT work on this bike.

 

[Uncle Fester]

This looks promising in that it is fixed and the two points wont shift on you. And for a cheap ******* like me it is only $17.13!


https://www.racingplanetusa.com/var...ator-locking-tool-clutch-holder-honda-kymco-keeway-p-194425-1.html#.XC7JEFxKiUk

 

[Uncle Fester]

My SYM HD200 has two holes on the variator for the holder pins to fit into...no muss, no fuss. Wish they all had this. Had to buy a special Honda tool for the Helix, pictured below. I wonder what the chances are that the spacing is the same for the Burgman?

Honda 07923-KM10000 DRIVE PULLEY HOLDER Ebay $65.31

If it fits between the fins this may be the way to go.

 

[s-steel]

got an idea..after seeing Mitch's video

the wood used cracked under load (should use plywood) and then he just slipped bolts in to hold it.

what about using bolts that sit deep enough and are wide enough to fill and fit inside the hole and then turning the nut? like he did in the video.

the only thing I can see an issue is that ir doent want to stay in place but maybe use some parcel tape just to hold it till it catches.

when ill open the cvt im going to try and see if I can get some bolts and angled insideto stay and then use the breaker bar.

 

[s-steel]

My SYM HD200 has two holes on the variator for the holder pins to fit into...no muss, no fuss. Wish they all had this. Had to buy a special Honda tool for the Helix, pictured below. I wonder what the chances are that the spacing is the same for the Burgman?

I doubt it will fit perfectly but you can eastly modify it with a dremel or disc cutter.if I had one like yours id be set. id just modify it.

 

[Chatman128]

Actually, if the 24mm socket will fit the center hole your chances are pretty excellent that it'll fit. Many of the homegrown tools are based on 6 equally spaced studs arranged around the center hole. Kind of like your Honda tool. There's only one way to space those studs on any given concentric circle.

 

[Uncle Fester]

Actually, if the 24mm socket will fit the center hole your chances are pretty excellent that it'll fit. Many of the homegrown tools are based on 6 equally spaced studs arranged around the center hole. Kind of like your Honda tool. There's only one way to space those studs on any given concentric circle.

Luckily they put a ruler under the picture on the Honda Tool. The center hole is at least 1 1/4 inches or 31.75 mm from my measurement. I looked at a image of the Honda Helix variator and it has 12 fins with a 14 mm center nut while the Burgman 400 has 18 fins and a 24 mm center nut.

Then it looks like the center of the studs come out another 3/4 inch from the edge of the hole or 19 mm.

 

[Uncle Fester]

Since I already purchased the Harbor Freight impact wrench I guess that is all I need to loosen and torque the bolts down with the torque sticks? The torque sticks are about $45.00 with the 20% off coupon.

 

[zcarnut]

Thanks for the image lesson s-steel.

 

[Daboo]

Since I already purchased the Harbor Freight impact wrench I guess that is all I need to loosen and torque the bolts down with the torque sticks? The torque sticks are about $45.00 with the 20% off coupon.

This is the easiest method, and won't break anything.

If anyone is planning on using the fins on the variator to hold it in place...what will you do when a fin breaks off? Break off the opposite fin?

 

[G-Dub]

Actually, if the 24mm socket will fit the center hole your chances are pretty excellent that it'll fit. Many of the homegrown tools are based on 6 equally spaced studs arranged around the center hole. Kind of like your Honda tool. There's only one way to space those studs on any given concentric circle.

The main issue would be (as someone previously mentioned) that the studs would fit between the fins on the Burg. The studs are 1/2" diameter. I didn't know about the torque sticks before...have ordered a set of those to use with my impact driver.

Center hole on the Honda tool is 1-3/8" diameter. My 24mm impact socket fits with about 1/8" to spare.

 

[Uncle Fester]

Well, I like to keep kicking a dead horse. I just watched a youtube video on this pulley holder. Seems pretty robust. Saw it for $48.99 at Tooltopia.

https://www.tooltopia.com/otc-tools...BRBIEiwAkGN6fCerOqCqNcou1Vp4NpHrhJ1MGIx6TDA2qXDEGkHZKwF8eZPle98mehoCwGIQAvD_BwE

 

[Abner Bjorn]

Thought I'd share my take on how to hold the variator. I hate buying tools that only get used every 14,000 miles. I was all set to grab a scrap piece of plywood and start adding 1/4-20 bolts in a pattern that would mate with the fins. I had 3 L brackets on my work bench. I used them along with some odd nuts and bolts I had. This tool(s) bolts in to the 3 front screw holes for the CVT cover (or 9,10 &1 according to Mitch). Works like a charm taking it off and putting it back on.

 

[Dave_J]

Thought I'd share my take on how to hold the variator. I hate buying tools that only get used every 14,000 miles. I was all set to grab a scrap piece of plywood and start adding 1/4-20 bolts in a pattern that would mate with the fins. I had 3 L brackets on my work bench. I used them along with some odd nuts and bolts I had. This tool(s) bolts in to the 3 front screw holes for the CVT cover (or 9,10 &1 according to Mitch). Works like a charm taking it off and putting it back on. View attachment 90412

This is one of the simpelest tools I have seen for this job. 🔧

I bet if I had a Burgman 200 or 400 I could make a permanent tool using these bolt holes. Make the pins curved and plastic coat them to fit the fins.

 

[VSF11]

My SYM HD200 has two holes on the variator for the holder pins to fit into...no muss, no fuss. Wish they all had this. Had to buy a special Honda tool for the Helix, pictured below. I wonder what the chances are that the spacing is the same for the Burgman?

Where did you get that tool from? I've tried searching, but all it brings up are 3-point tools for cars and trucks (This despite specifying "honda helix variator tool", grrr).

 

[Dave_J]

Where did you get that tool from? I've tried searching, but all it brings up are 3-point tools for cars and trucks (This despite specifying "honda helix variator tool", grrr).

Call Partzilla to make sure it fits before ordering. Then check Ebay for price compare.

Honda 07923-KM10000 - DRIVE PULLEY HOLDER | Partzilla.com

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[VSF11]

Call Partzilla to make sure it fits before ordering. Then check Ebay for price compare.

Honda 07923-KM10000 - DRIVE PULLEY HOLDER | Partzilla.com

Buy Honda 07923-KM10000 - DRIVE PULLEY HOLDER . This OEM part is guaranteed by Honda's limited part warranty ✓ FREE Shipping on qualified orders - Partzilla.com

www.partzilla.com

70 BUCKS???
HO-ly S***!!!!!

 

[G-Dub]

70 BUCKS???
HO-ly S***!!!!!

I think I got mine on ebay (but don't see anything now), and $70 sounds about right. It is a sturdy, well made tool and probably worth that. HOWEVER....That tool WILL NOT work with the Burgman. The Burgy has more fins on the variator and are closer together. The pins on the Honda tool are too large to fit in between the fins. You would have to grind them down a little to make it fit. Best to just get one of the myriad "Y" type holders or make one yourself. As long as you're careful to make sure it's fully seated and use proper torque I don't think you'll break a fin. Or use the clever angle bracket and bolt method above.

 

[VSF11]

I think I got mine on ebay (but don't see anything now), and $70 sounds about right. It is a sturdy, well made tool and probably worth that. HOWEVER....That tool WILL NOT work with the Burgman. The Burgy has more fins on the variator and are closer together. The pins on the Honda tool are too large to fit in between the fins. You would have to grind them down a little to make it fit. Best to just get one of the myriad "Y" type holders or make one yourself. As long as you're careful to make sure it's fully seated and use proper torque I don't think you'll break a fin. Or use the clever angle bracket and bolt method above.

Was actually looking for one for a helix so I can do my own work - last time I trusted a shop, they broke my muffler clamp as well as causing a slow oil leak from the motor... and didn't say anything.

 

[G-Dub]

Was actually looking for one for a helix so I can do my own work - last time I trusted a shop, they broke my muffler clamp as well as causing a slow oil leak from the motor... and didn't say anything.

Ah...just noticed your profile pic...was thinking it was for a Burgman. The other types described here will work on the Helix, too. It really helps to have one with a long handle so it will brace against the floor when you're loosening and tightening. If you only have one of the shorter types you can improvise a handle extension using a proper-sized piece of pipe. I put short pieces of rubber tubing over the pins on the tool to help spread out the force a tiny bit and help it grip a little better. Make sure it stays all the way into the fins; if it's just holding on the edge it's more likely to snap one off.