That reminds me I need to pick up some spare fuses and have them handy.

We'll have to get together soon Rick. Maybe I should ride over to your Canadian Tire since mine is only a block away, mine is much to close

 

flat tyre

g day mate i was reading your post about your fuse trouble ,what you have to do is get a pump that draws less current it tells you what current draw you can use in the hand book so as not to blow da fuses. tj in oz

 

Rick - no kidding.

The inexpensive, foot-operated, bicycle tire pump that I bought at K-mart worked great. It has a pressure gauge built in, and the hose fits over the schreader (sp?) valve very easily. It's also very easy to operate, and it indicated a two pound gain with only about 6 or 8 foot strokes.

You may want to check that out.

oh2.
pedz.

 

Mmmm, I use my 12 volt air pump any time I need to top up the pressure in my 650's tires and it's never blown a fuse.

Wonder why Rick's did? :scratch:

 

It depends on the pump's current draw. Rick's must draw more Amps than yours does. Current and voltage are two different critters.

An interesting side story: Lots of us have played with 9-volt batteries. I remember a kid at school getting me to touch the top of the battery with the tip of my tongue, which gives you a slight shock, but doesn't do any damage. Well, a Harvard student decided he'd see how much voltage the human body could take. He rigged up a transformer -- I think it was something like a toy train transformer -- and hooked it up to 2 beakers of salt water, because salt water conducts electricity better. He set it for a low 9 volts and then plunged his hands in the water. He died immediately of cardiac arrest. While the 9 volts didn't seem like much, the amount of current was enough to kill him. That, and the fact that the path the electricity took was through his arms and across his chest.

 

It depends on the pump's current draw. Rick's must draw more Amps than yours does. Current and voltage are two different critters.

An interesting side story:snip He set it for a low 9 volts and then plunged his hands in the water. He died immediately of cardiac arrest. While the 9 volts didn't seem like much, the amount of current was enough to kill him. That, and the fact that the path the electricity took was through his arms and across his chest.

He should have used a lower rated fuse then!

 

AN650 Fuses (help me find them)

I seem to have blown the fuse that controls my brake lights. (I suspect the Kriss brake light flasher I had added months ago.) Maybe the rain we got caught in yesterday shorted out one of my connections. My problem is....I don't know how to access the fuse box. The Service Manual shows a close-up picture of it, but for the life of me, I can't figure out where it is at. The SM also shows an arrow pointing at the right front panel, but that is not much help. I think Suzuki maybe doesn't like DIY customers, because IMHO the Service Manual seems hard to interpret in a lot of cases.

Jerry in FL

 

On my 650 you have to remove the left panel beside the large glove box door.
Air cleaner is in there too.

 

It depends on the pump's current draw. Rick's must draw more Amps than yours does. Current and voltage are two different critters.

An interesting side story: Lots of us have played with 9-volt batteries. I remember a kid at school getting me to touch the top of the battery with the tip of my tongue, which gives you a slight shock, but doesn't do any damage. Well, a Harvard student decided he'd see how much voltage the human body could take. He rigged up a transformer -- I think it was something like a toy train transformer -- and hooked it up to 2 beakers of salt water, because salt water conducts electricity better. He set it for a low 9 volts and then plunged his hands in the water. He died immediately of cardiac arrest. While the 9 volts didn't seem like much, the amount of current was enough to kill him. That, and the fact that the path the electricity took was through his arms and across his chest.

It's all about current. Static shocks like when you rub you feet on the carpet and touch someone are several thousand volts, but are harmless.
I can't remember the threshold for lethal current, but it was mentioned on at least one episode of Myth Busters as being somewhere in the several milliamper range. That amount across your chest can be fatal.

 

Thanks for the tip on where the fuse box is. I sure couldn't tell from the picture in the Service Manual.

Jerry

 

Voltage, lethality, etc.

Don't know if this matters but when I was selling electric forklift trucks the ones up to 48 volts did not have to use low voltage switches. We had a 72 volt model which had 12 volt control circuits. I was told that OSHA had a maximum of 54 volts before requiring low voltage - someone else knows better, probably.

As a side note, a 12 volt battery on a boat will stay fully charged after being submerged in fresh water. We had to crank up a boat when a friend left out the transom plug while launching. By the time we discovered the water it was over the votch in the transom. The motor started OK so we held on while gunning it across the Arkansas river to drain it - worked OK, but I don't think I'll do that part again.

 

It's all about current. Static shocks like when you rub you feet on the carpet and touch someone are several thousand volts, but are harmless.
I can't remember the threshold for lethal current

Usually 50milli amps are considered lethal. But again this has to be said VERY carefully, since for some folks even 10ma can be lethal. (Think pacemaker) while others survive 100ma and more (think lightning stroke victims, @ multiple 100's of amps)

The problem is it cannot be said so easily what is lethal because it is a combination of current, frequency and phase. If you get the right current in the right phase even a low ver low current can kill you if it works just counter to your heartbeat, OTOH even high current can be survived if the phase is somewhat in phase with your heartbeat.

Also there is a HUGE difference between AC and DC. DC as you get from a battery is usually pretty begnign up to 70+ volts, and again depending on your conductivity, because you can get easily 'cooked' from the inside out once the electricity is able to enter your body. Your best defense is dry and clean skin, worst is wet, dirty, sweaty skin.

Did I confuse you enough?