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im going to try and buy a 2nd rim. get this mounted on. ive been mauling this thing over 100 times. read endless articles. scared to try, but here it is. a picture of the same scooter dark sided. teasing me.

crazy crazy price spike. cost $150 for a darn rear turkish tire. but kleber dynaxer hp4 car tire goes for $75. should last at least twice scooter tire. so basically 1/4 the price of MT. im tired of these thieving prices.

I will have to do some practice driving to get the feel. not sure if its smart to do this in rainy season.

just curious. is it possible to sand down the edge, just a bit? im not liking the hard edge. theres no taper at all. looking at my tire now, its almost all center wear anyway.

 

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look closely, the edge is already "sanded"/tapered
my darkside experience was , better handling on the strait line, (tar snakes and such) no noticeable difference on the lean, but I don't try to scrape my sidestand, elbows and knees, (the dangly bits git too close to the asphalt)
 
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whats up Mikey.

yes, there is a softened angle then a transition to the flat part. but what about using a wood rasp and some sandpaper to soften this transition a bit. my big worry is the wobbly drive under braking while in some turn. being on a small patch. so I want to break that edge a bit for the better familar feel. its not like a low profile tire, but I want to soften that edge

3fff — Postimages this is the actual tire model

at least try. worst comes to worse the tire doesnt perform as well. inexpensive price to experiment. this will relieve some stress about this new situation for me. scared obviously. especially in rain.

im not leaning hard. I dont ever trust the road to not have some hidden grease marks. but its in quick braking that always worries me. im always worried on the edge contact patch when leaning. I always notice the edge of every single tire I had, I shake my head and say "wow, shame on all that tread" so here im removing it for my benefit, but its hardly used anyway. theres always a huge flat spot right in the middle of MT anyway.

funny how almost everyone who says dont do it, havent done it to give an objective pov. and all that did it, are almost all happy and dont plan to go back.
 

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I did notice the tread isnt universal. some angles to one side but not "universal"

ill try looking for universal tread design tire
 

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From what I've seen, some European Radials have a more rounded profile than others. Perhaps if you shop around you'll find something that works without that abrupt transition. I've often thought about it, but up here we have a Gov't Insurance scheme that is mandatory for basic coverage. They have a reputation of always looking for ways to disqualify any claims.
 

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Shaving tyres is skilled work and best done with specialist cutting tools.

I’d advise against taking sharp things to grippy surfaces on a DIY basis - when static (uneven results) or when spinning (more even but I have matching J shaped scars on both sides of my hand that were briefly a hole all the way through)
 

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yes, im still doing research on the choice. but an example..this sava tire (more univeral with tread pattern) has a huge fat tread I could trim just a bit. and I wouldnt need to get it down to nothing but would help me feel confident in the feel. im not trying to turn it to a MT, but to eliviate the stress of riding on the edge and how it feels.

im shocked how deep the treads are on a CT. makes me drool! and makes me happy to not pay thieving prices. otoh...


so showed the marks of where id like to "soften" the edge a bit. I notice the treads on all my tires are never worn at all. I just looked at them. theres tons of deep tread left.

 

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crazy crazy price spike. cost $150 for a darn rear turkish tire.
Available in Cyprus - Dunlop Scootsmart 160/60-14 @ 121 Euro (1.2 cents per kilometer @ 10K per tyre)
Legal, known pedigree.
How does a CT affect your 2 yearly inspection?
 

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idea was to use a flat rasp to do the bulk, a bit of angle grinding with coarse stone, then a wood piece to use as a sanding block to finalize it while the scooter is running at lower speed. the rear does spin when its on the center jack. probably will need a good hour to do this

I know. many nay sayers. I feel I need to try. the turkish tire I use held for around 19000km. not the stickiest grip. but the last failed too quickly.
 

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How does a CT affect your 2 yearly inspection?
yes, thats a worry. I think reg papers have the tire sizes needed. maybe be a rebel. otoh, if I get caught they would tow my bike away and fine me at the least. otoh, not a big fan of authority and pinheads controlling people. dont know about this.

why does the usa get to have all the fun and we cant do jack sh.
 

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I have dunlop SS on coma induced b400 right outside. did not like it. used diablo rosso before. they were stellar. so sticky in the rain.

youre right Ron Moropito. they look for anything to dismiss any claims and to disqualify.

saw that video and was so psyched. bummer.
 

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55-60 years or so ago my Uncle had a large motorcycle shop. He bought and sold used bikes and serviced many brands.

He would mount truck tires on a lot of Harley and Bonneville choppers. He has an outside stall that he would pull a bike into, start it up and with the rear wheel off the ground get into 2nd gear and rev it to 4,000 RPM and I'd pull a lever that pushed a Curved steel plate on the tire and it would shave the sides a little more rounded. Lots of smoke. We did not take much off the corners. In a 1,000 miles the owner could come back to have the corners shaved again.
 

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it started early with you Dave, so youre an advocate.

definitely able to curve it a bit. that tread is thick!

I have to try it. for a few years I follow posts and read about it. for me biggest hurdle is the beaurocracy. always in the us you guys have fun. less restrictions.
 

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im going to try and buy a 2nd rim. get this mounted on. ive been mauling this thing over 100 times. read endless articles. scared to try, but here it is. a picture of the same scooter dark sided. teasing me.

crazy crazy price spike. cost $150 for a darn rear turkish tire. but kleber dynaxer hp4 car tire goes for $75. should last at least twice scooter tire. so basically 1/4 the price of MT. im tired of these thieving prices.

I will have to do some practice driving to get the feel. not sure if its smart to do this in rainy season.

just curious. is it possible to sand down the edge, just a bit? im not liking the hard edge. theres no taper at all. looking at my tire now, its almost all center wear anyway.

Welcome to the darkside! It was the Burg Boys that paved the way for me to first think about it then actually throw my hat and shotgun over the fence and try it. The Burgman 400 and my Kymco Downtown 300i have the same sizes front and rear and the Burgman darksiders had raves about the Achilles brand for the 13" rear so that's what I put on. That was over 9000 miles ago and the tire and tread look like new! I absolutely HATE wrasslin' tires on and off every 3500 to 6000 miles.

The handling is different but no so much that an experienced rider cannot adapt. Some riders absolutely hate how a car tire on the rear feels and go back to mc tires. Not me, I be car tire forever!
 

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at least try it before you shave it you may find it is un necessary and definitely difficult and dangerous work :devilish: you can always shave it later, but you can't un shave it
 
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