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The owner and rider of the BMW in the picture below is a riding buddy--we don't hang out but only occasionally ride together.


Now, I am not an overly sensitive guy. And I let others do their own thing. I even wave to the little scooter riders.

But the BMW rider asked me why don't I get a fine street bike. He was putting down my Burgman 650 without actually saying it. Now, if I wanted to be mean, I could have reminded him that it was he who needed to take a break every 100 Miles or less because his seat was so uncomfortable (this is with a $400 custom seat), I saw him struggling with his Beemer at every stop light on a hilly street, his bike would start over heating in the Toronto 401 Express traffic, etc. At gas stations riders our age would come over and talk to me about the Burgman and totally ignore him and his Beemer.

Can I afford a expensive blinged out Ride? In short, yes. But I choose to have my 'Big Easy' as my main touring bike. We bought a used 2006 AN650 for my wife and I liked it so much I bought another one for myself. Now, every time I have a ride over a 100 Miles, I choose the Burgie.

Maybe, I am being too sensitive.

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"I prefer to go for durability, utility and value and find those are often in short supply in the "finer" machines."
 

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You're right cbolling, I had a guy in a car yell at me last night coming home from work telling me to get a real motorcycle....I blew him off the road when the light turned green.
 

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I had been without a bike for years until i bought my Burgman a couple of weeks ago. I had though,grown up riding dirt bikes and atv's and moved on to street bikes when i got my license and up until the kids came along. Several years ago, i tried out a used Burgman at a local dealer. I told my wife that if i ever got back into riding, I wanted one. I am at a point in life that I want the storage space, comfort, and convenience of it. I find myself offended though when a friend sees it and says, "It's a scooter..." . If it didn't have the pass-through design, everybody would just see it as a motorcycle. Either way, I'm loving mine. It exceeds my needs and expectations, and I don't care what anybody calls it.
 

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I've got a pimped out burgman and made the seat super comfy and it outperforms motorcycles. Always got compliments on it and never been looked down so far
 

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Bought my Burgman 650 last May after riding all sorts of motorcycles for 50 years. I have not been asked to "go riding" by any of my riding friends since. There is definitely a stigma with riding or even riding with a scooter. Sad really. I guess I've got to find some scooter riders for friends ... sigh!
 

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Tell him the truth - because you could afford something better.
So you got the right tool for the job.

I don't think I could ever go back to aching wrists, aching butt and a "go faster" rucksack.

Rucksacks must make you go faster because all the sports bike riders have them :thumbup:
 

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Don't worry about it. No matter what you ride, someone somewhere will consider it to be 'not a real motorcycle'. I've had a couple people ask me about my choice to get the Burgman rather than a sportbike/Harley/big DS bike. What I usually tell them is,

"Well, motorcycles mean different things to different people. I looked at all the criteria I wanted in a commuter/light touring motorcycle, and the Burgman fit the bill with the lowest cost for me."

I own several bikes, so I'm not real sensitive about it. I had a buddy ask me if I was willing to take the Burgman on the freeway. I didn't have the heart to tell him that it was actually faster than a great many street bikes he's sees out there now.
 

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I like to take a comical approach. I ride with a MC group and we tease eachother ALL the time. It's just good natured ribbing like, "hey Liam, does that thing come with pedals?" Response, "No, No pedals on mine. Can you say the same? Seems you're working your feet a heII of a lot more than me. Lol".

It lets them know you're not sensitive about your ride, you're confident and you don't put up with crap... But in a nice, fun way. Awkward confrontation avoided.

It helps they know I can toast most all of them in the twisties, but you get my point. You can get respect without demanding it.

In your situation, I would have said something like, "get a fine street bike? No, I much prefer riding without all the butt breaks." Followed up with a good chuckle. It means don't take my comment too seriously.

Good luck. Hope this helps.
 

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When I got my first Burgman, I showed up on it instead of my BMW on our weekly ride. Didn't say anything but I led the ride as I normally did. We ride on very crooked mountain roads and they soon found out keeping up was a challenge. The BMWs did OK but the Harleys got behind and I had to slow on the straights until they caught up. They appreciate the 650 I have and 2 bought one to ride so they could keep up.
 

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While I have had a number of different motorcycles ( this includes my Burgman as it is a motorcycle), I have always bought the bike that impressed me and not to impress the other guy. After all its my fanny on the bike not his and its me I need to impress not the other guy. Different strokes for different folks, that's what makes scooterin so much fun.

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I really don't give a rat's butt what anyone else thinks about what I ride. I have a couple BMWs which I do prefer on longer rides but my favorite around town bike is the Big Burg. Do I catch crap for owning a Burgman? Yes I do. But I don't care, especially when it's from those who've never even owned a street bike.
 

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I have never been an apologist for what I ride. Last month I rode the Burgman over to our Harley dealers. Being that it was a Saturday, the place was full. Parked right next to a pretty Harley set up for touring (it kind of made my Burgman 650 look small). Anyhow, before I left, almost everyone who was outside (big crowd) had wandered by the bike to eyeball it. Got some questions from a couple of riders and one old guy (looked to be in his 60's like me) Turns out that he is having trouble with his wrist on his left side. Thinks pulling his clutch is causing it. Asked me if he could sit on my bike, of course I let him. Next thing was how much do new ones cost and was there a dealer nearby. Not one person there gave me any grief about the Burgman. Now at our Japanese dealer it is a different story. Everyone gives me a hard time for what I ride now. I just tell them to go fsk themselves. Explain that it is my bike and that I like it and didn't cost any of them one red cent. Besides, I have been riding longer than most of them have been alive.

Just an interesting observation.

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Every once in a while, I'll get a snide attempt at a putdown by someone on a H-D or Beemer, or driving a Benz or some other Viagramobile.

I just tell 'em, "I had one of those when I was unemployed. Soon as I got a job, I bought this here Burgman!"

Never had a good comeback to that one yet!
 

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....Now, I am not an overly sensitive guy. And I let others do their own thing. I even wave to the little scooter riders....Maybe, I am being too sensitive.
Yes, you are.

But the BMW rider asked me why don't I get a fine street bike....
Why do you need to say ANYTHING to him? What difference does it make what he says? But if it really others you, you can say:

  1. Because I don't want to be confused with many of the assholes who ride "real" bikes.
  2. Because when my child died of cancer when she was 5 years old, I promised her that I would ride this scooter to remember her by (that should shut him right the **** up).
  3. Because my psychic told me that if I ride THIS scooter, I would come into great wealth by the time I put 100,000 miles on it (this only works if you can be completely and convincingly serious).
  4. My wife told me that if I spent money on another other motorcycles, she would leave me for another woman - and her girlfriend is good in bed, so I know she's not fooling around.
  5. Because this is all I can afford (doesn't matter if it is true).
  6. Why? What difference does it make to you?
Or you can simply stop riding with him.

In any case, I wouldn't bother getting into the merits of scooters over other motorcycles, it will just be a waste of time.
 

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I ride my wife's Yamaha Vino 125 scooter while wearing my Harley T shirt my daughter bought me. Now that REALLY frosts the HD bunch!
Your in the same boat as me. You have a biker beemer snob for a friend(yeah sure he is) and I have(had) a HD snob for a pretend friend.
 

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... the BMW rider asked me why don't I get a fine street bike. He was putting down my Burgman 650 without actually saying it...

Maybe, I am being too sensitive.
Moments like this, I smile to myself, happy in the knowledge that I have an awesome motorcycle and somewhat forgiving of ignorant comments from people who really don't understand what a maxi scooter is. If only they knew...

And that, in fact, is the proper response:

"If only you knew what a fantastic bike this is..."

Ride safe.
Scott Fraser
 
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