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I'm curious as to the type of motorcycle Burgman 400 riders own or have owned in the past. If I get a second bike I'd like to add a motorcycle or Burg 650 to my newly acquired Burg 400. I'm looking for a quick, comfortable bike that can do 85 mph on the highway as well as around town type riding. Comfort then speed then mpg (I don't care about mpg very much) in that order.

Do you like the new Honda Goldwing or BMW 1200 RT? Thanks for any comments.
 

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When I bought a 08 400 last October, I had a 86 R80RT BMW and a 03 R1200CLC BMW. I sold the R80RT and kept the R1200RT for long trips (750 lbs, electronic cruise, heated seats, heated grips, AM/FM/CD, etc). The 400 was totaled when I was hit in the rear on July 1st. I replaced the 400 with a 650 (only because I found a good deal and no good deals were available on a 400 at the time). I found that the 650 was better for interstate riding than the 400 and I decided to sell the BMW (since I wasn't riding it since I got the 400). Once I sold the BMW, I missed having a motorcycle so I bought a V-Star 650 Midnight Custom with 700 miles on it with $1,000+ of accessories added.

I use my Burgman 650 for longer distance riding, trips to pick up things and as a general replacement for a car. I use my little V-Star to get my motorcycle fix while traveling on crooked mountain roads. The V-Star will run about 90 but it is most comfortable at speeds under 70. I plan on keeping both for a long time.
 

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I've had a few MCs in the past including an ST1100, an old V45 Sabre and a yamaha 400. But nothing compares to the comfort and sheer usability of the Burgmans. When you have a MC, you're always strapping things on, or bringing a backpack or something gerryriged; you look like a homeless college student most the time. But the Burgman's have a very nice refinement about them, a Gentleman's bike as it were.

The 400 is really all you need, it is a great all around bike. But if you really want a good touring bike, the 650 is grand. I bought mine used for a very low price with Under 3500 miles on the clock. I did a 625 mile ride to the Salton Sea last weekend and a 200 miler to Santa Barbara today. It is the most comfortable and capable bike I've ever ridden.

Although I've never been on the BMW or Goldwing, they sure seem big. My ST was over 700 lbs wet, I didn't much enjoy it. And don't those bikes start at 20k? Upwards of 30k I believe for the full dress Tourer. You can get a nicely equipped used Burgman 650 for a fifth of that. And you don't have to shift.

So, I'm very happy with my Burgman stable and can highly recommend them both.
 

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Bridgestone 90 1968-1970
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Honda 305 scrambler 1971=1972
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BSA 750 twin 1971-1972
Suzuki 750 Water Buffalo 1972-1974
Suzuki 100 1972-1974 (dual range trans)
20 yr. sabittacle
Burgman '03 400 2003-2003
Burgman '03 650 2003-present
 

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Honda NT700V. Sort of a budget RT1200 :) I looked at the BMW when I was looking for a long-distance tourer, but the insurance was out of sight! Speed is no problem, fuel economy and maintenance is good, around town is OK, but my Burgman 400 is more practical. Look for Daboo's posting on his experiences with this same bike.
 

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1999 Honda Rebel 250
2005 Burgman 400
2003 Kawi Ninja 250
2006 Yamaha V-star 650 Custom
2008 Suzuki S50
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Many bikes - but pics are better than letters and numbers to describe a bike.............
 

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My last motorcycle and biggest of any I have had was a Yamaha VStar 1100. I had it totally decked out with running lights, Mustang seats, cobra pipes, saddle bags, dash bag, windshield, sissy bar...very nice. I just couldn't deal with the weight anymore and throwing my leg over the seat, especially with the sissy bar on. Getting older with shoulder, back, knee, and neck problems, I figured my riding days were over. I actually gave the bike to my son. Then, I discovered the maxi-scooters. Got a SYM RV250 which I love, but after reading about the Burgies and having a difficult time getting parts for the SYM, I found a great deal on a 2011 Burgman. I've got to say...I'll never go back to motorcycles. I love the maxi-scooters and couldn't be happier with my Burgman...what a machine. I believe the 400 is the all around perfect bike for me, on the country roads, in the mountains, or on the interstate. Plus, I can push it around with no problem. Good luck with your search.
 

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I've had too many bikes in 43 years to list but my last two were the 1000cc Vstrom Suzuki, and the GSX1400. Both great bikes but my Burgman 400z abs surprisingly is much better at doing most of the thing those two bikes did! Except that is, cruising the highways at 100mph...which I have no desire to do these days.
 

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>>I've had too many bikes in 43 years to list<<

Same on this end, only it's been 55 years. In fact, my first bike was a '52 BSA "Bantam" 125cc! The second bike was the complete opposite, being a 1945 Indian "Chief". Talk about one end of the spectrum to the other! :)

P.S. Oh, and get this... I got a whopping $50.00 trade for the Chief towards a '58 Royal Enfield/Indian Trailblazer in 1961. Waaah....
 

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Suzuki Vstrom 650 or V strom 1000?

Kawasaki Concourse 14

BMW 1600GT- this bike seems to be winning acclaim from all kinds of cycle magazines.
 

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That's what i call a good design. In bikes world imo it yields only to pre '14 Vee Strom and the Burgman 400. A solid third place. Performance wise it prob yields to no one, didn't try it yet though :D
 

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The concours 14 is $13,000 brand new or about $10,000 for a 2012 with under 1,000 miles. The price difference isn't much between the Burgman 650 and the Concours 14.
 

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I'll most likely end up with a Burgman 650 and not a Concours 14 due to ride comfort; still I 'd like to see another 5-10 hp out of the Burg 650 and more equipment for the price. I'd also like to see a 50 pound weight reduction (it needs a diet).

I prefer Black or Grey over White but I don't think those colors are available in the USA.
 

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That's what i call a good design. In bikes world imo it yields only to pre '14 Vee Strom and the Burgman 400. A solid third place. Performance wise it prob yields to no one, didn't try it yet though :D
Why do you prefer the Pre 2014 Suzuki Vstrom? Ride Comfort? Do you like the Vstrom 1000? How does ride comfort of Vstrom compare to the Burgman?
 
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