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Here's a comparison of the Burg 400 to the Yammy 400 but it's in Italian. Anyone know how to subject it to a translation program? I dig those bitchin' pictures of the naked bikes. Wonder which one is the Burg.


Burg vs Yammy



Sorry, anyone know how to shorten that url?





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Upon closer inspection, it looks like the top picture is the naked Burg. Maybe I'm biased, but it looks like the Burg has the more rigid frame.






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a "wonderful" TRANSLATION by http://ets.freetranslation.com/

After the drunkenness of the mega rolled, the Manufacturers seem in phase of change of mind for how much pertains the maxiscooter. It conjugate the features of put into practice of these vehicles with services even more raised of those seen up to now is not simple and to the end the high costs risk to harm the success of means that have to simply always to be utilitarian. Here therefore that Yamaha increased the frame of its knowner scooter, the Majesty, adopting the same politics of the Suzuki, that after the Burgman 250 presented 400, doubling the success.

After years of Majesty 250 (still large numbers, with 7.396 examples registered in 2003 and the tenth absolute place), grown fond him some Brand have now of that to choose and l’operation has revealed of success: in the first three months of 2004 were registered 2.594 Majesty 400, against 1.796 Burgman 400.

The new Yamaha is therefore the direct challenger of what up to now the best was-seller of the segment (moreover without direct rivals, if it is excluded the Malaguti Madison). Until the Suzuki has immediately provided to align the reduction the price of its I model: 6.178 key euro in hand (from 6.670) against the 6.170 of the Majesty. Quest’last has a moderner line with respect to that of the rival. After the first visual impact, this difference appears in all its obviousness not just, come down from the Burgman, it is climbed on the Majesty.

The position of leader is in fact clearly different: l’mailing is like to that of the TMax (saddle and handle about to the same height), sportier and comfortable is lieutenant the legs folded is stendendole in before, privileging the control of the in all means the situations; the Burgman is “old style”, favors the position stretched out (with the saddle, high 730 mm against the 740 of the rival), to helpShort to lean the foots from motionless. The Suzuki has therefore the lowest center of gravity, the that facilitates in the maneuvers to engine extinguished, to speed reduced and in the I deal city. The difference of weight in maneuver appears quite more abounding of how much in reality is: the ours balances denounced a gap of alone 5 kg to empty to favor of the Burgman. It emerges immediately so the different vocation of these two scooter, with the Yamaha more stradista and voted to the long distances.
 

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Hi

My Italian is well rusty but here is my take on it:

Yamaha had rested on its laurels after selling so many 250cc Majestys but has now followed Suzukis idea of a single cylinder 400. Initial indications (in Italy?) is they are outselling the Burgman (2594 to 1796 for the Burgman in the first 3 months of 2004). So the Yam is the direct challenger to the best seller in this market segment and Suzuki has responded by reducing prices (500 Euro) Visually the scooters are remarkably similar.
But the riding positions are different with the Majesty taking cues from the TMax but the Burgman with its lower seat favours the shorter rider. The Burgman also has the lowest centre of gravity and is much more comfortable in city centre handling – the difference belies the mere 5Kg weight difference. This highlights perhaps the major difference with the Burgman better suited to the cut and thrust of city work and the Yamaha to the long distance work.
It is not just the mechanics that have differences – but the chassis too with the Yamaha employing an innovative aluminium structure against the classic steel of the Burgman. The Burgman is planted on two equal size wheels (13”) with the Yamaha having the 13 “ at the rear and a 14” at the front. While both are 4 stroke single cylinder engines, the Yamaha has a double overhead camshaft to the Burgmans single. While the power is similar the way it is developed is not with the Burgman much better suited and much more responsive around the city with the Majesty capable of higher speed work at a more relaxed engine speed (130Km/he =7200 Suzuki, 6000 Yamaha)

While the Burgman has an easy adjustable single rear shock absorber, the Yamaha has the much more stability inducing twin set up which is more effective at reducing jolts. The ergonomics and controls on both are excellent with little to choose between them but the Yamaha does have a 4 position (longtitudinal) butt stop
Both have remarkable luggage capacity with the Suzuki scoring nmore highly in terms of finisg, lighting and accessibility. They could both derive real benefit from central locking.
The Yamaha has beautiful instrumentation with 2 anologue instrument with an LCD information display between. The Burgman is equally accomplished but bith lack a voltmeter.

Both have the swinging arm, ‘traditional scooter’ arrangement but the Majesty has the better stability probably die to the twin shocks, the Burgmans handling does not cause any concern but the Majesty just steals this aspect of performance. Despite this the low centre of gravity makes the Burgman more ‘chuckable’ in the twisties!
Both have advantages and disadvantages with regard to weather protection with the standard screen.

There are meaningful differences in the braking systems with the Burgman having the combination system which enables even the inexperienced to stop well. The independent system on the Yamaha demands more skill but is then able to stop in shorter distances.
It is not so easy to choose between these 2 machines and both are excellent examples of the Japanese school. The appearance of the 400 Yamaha brings the immediate benefit of competition and lower prices. The aesthetic differences may be end up be the deciding factor, but if the greater use is to be made at higher speed the Majesty is the one to go for, while in the city and in the ‘twisties’ the Burgman should be favourite.
 

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Whoa!!, check out the big brain on Norman. Thank you Norman, I appreciate that. Though I have to admit, the Freetranslation version that began with "After the drunkeness of the mega rolled...." started out with a bit more promise.







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Yeah but I ignored the difficult bits and applied a modicum of poetic licence!! :wink: :wink:

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