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What does the owner manual say? Mileage and/or time? I plan on buying an 08 with 1800 miles on it Saturday. The owner says the oil has never been changed. Should I run or is this OK?
 

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If it has never been changed that means the 600 mile service hasn't been performed. I would change the oil & filter and the final drive oil at a minimum.
 

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Come on guys I need some advice here. Tell me new modern conventional oil is good for 5000 miles and I have nothing to worry about or tell me the opposite. I read a thread on here today that went on for two pages on how to check the oil thur the little site glass. At least you can give me an opinion on old oil.
 

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If the oil is 5 years old, how much condensation will be in there, turning it into a sludge? Why cycle that through your engine, when for less than $20 you can have fresh oil and a new filter? I know a lot of scooter riders are incredibly cheap, but I think we have a winner here.
 

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To add a bit, I buy Mobil 1 for my cars when Costco has it on sale. Three cases at a time. I sent an email to Mobil asking how long they recommend I can keep it, and they said it should be fine for at least 5 years. Also, keep in mind that brake fluid absorbs water, and the coolant may lose the corrosion inhibitors. The gasoline may varnish. So siphon out as much of the old gas you can, and use it in your lawnmower.
 

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There you go, you can't pay for better advice. How you proceed is up to you.

Good luck,
 

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Evidently the previous owner doesn't take very good care of his vehicles. The owners manual says to change the oil at 600 miles along with the filter. I personally think the change should be done sooner. There is a large amount of metal in the oil produced by the break in process that the filter can not remove. Change it right away.
 

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dabimf said:
Evidently the previous owner doesn't take very good care of his vehicles. The owners manual says to change the oil at 600 miles along with the filter. I personally think the change should be done sooner. There is a large amount of metal in the oil produced by the break in process that the filter can not remove. Change it right away.
whut he said !
 

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Your 400 may not have been in service since 2008 - maybe only since 2011 0r 2012. When I was looking for a 400 earlier this year one of the dealers had a 2008 with 500 miles that they said was only in use for about one year. Their story was that Suzuki had a load of 2008's that were still in their warehouse that they released to the dealers in 2011. Exactly what state these bikes are in when they're still on a pallet in a warehouse, I don't know. What does a dealer do when they prep a bike for delivery? Do they then add the oil, brake fluid and/or coolant? But even if only a year, the 600 mile oil/filter change would be long overdue.
 

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I have bought a few new vehicles in my life, on all of them I changed the oil when I got the (car or bike) home from the dealer. Just because.
I would change the oil (engine and FD) yearly at a minimum. Oil changes are relatively cheap and easy to do.
You should proceed by checking everything. All fluids, spark plug, cooling hoses. Including brake fluid. Start from zero then you will KNOW the condition of your bike :)
 
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