[andystracey]

My K9 has had all sorts of wierd starting problems. This turns out to be the starter motor. I have removed the old one ( that was a drama ), now to the question. I have a dead Burgman in my garage, so I strtpped this and the starter look identicle.
The K9 starter was a Denso 31100-06H00, the old burgman has a Denso 31100-14F00.
From searching the net I think they are both
TypeMDD
Kw:0.7
Voltage:12
Rotation:CW
Pinion:9-Tooth

So I plan to fit the old one and save myself hundreds of £'s

Please let me know your thoughts...................

 

[mike1nw]

I saw 0 answers to your post, I would see if there are any differences between the two, then bolt it in and try it, assuming they look the same...

 

[andystracey]

Thats my plan, hopefully will update later today.

 

[mikeyMarine]

don't be surprised if it blows a fuse because of a larger current draw

 

[andystracey]

Great news. The starter motor from my 2001 burgman fits the k9 and works absolutely fine. ( The dealer said it wouldnt, what do they know ).

 

[mike1nw]

Dealer said they had never seen a speed sensor go bad either :| At $82 I am glad I figured that one out myself....

 

[ridesafe]

I know this is an old post but my scooter stopped starting and I hauled it to the local shop in my truck and after the $95 diagnostic they said it is the starter motor and estimated $1,100 to fix it.

I am looking for any help on how to best do this myself.

I am pretty mechanically inclined and have done almost all the maintenance on my 2008 Burgman 400. Currently I have about 15,000 miles on my Burgman.

I noticed the OEM part #31100 - 06H00 is around $400-$500 but I have seen it new on ebay for $70ish(China) and have read others have had it rebuilt locally for $70ish.


Thanks to any willing helpers.

 

[Quantum Mechanic]

It's often possible to recondition an old starter motor. They often fail due to faulty windings on the armature or problems with the brushes etc. As long as the unit is mechanically ok regarding the starter dog, then go for a rebuild. You know it's the right one then too and it's going to fit. There're as good as new afterwards and it's much cheaper than a new unit. If you can get a cheap secondhand unit then that's often ok too. I've had many starter motors rebuilt over the year for cars and bikes. Oh, by the way. The dealer sounds a bit expensive for a starter replacement job.

 

[ridesafe]

Thanks Quantum Mechanic for the quick reply, much appreciated. Getting to the starter motor and removing it seems pretty straight forward looks like it is just under the air filter box. I saw a picture from Danny Powers looks like it is the unit on the left side of this picture.

 

[ridesafe]

The service manual is not much help. It just says remove the starter motor and has picture of it and the 3 bolt attachment points circled. : )

 

[ErikDK]

The service manual is not much help. It just says remove the starter motor and has picture of it and the 3 bolt attachment points circled. : )

http://www.al-electric.de/?aktion=nummernsuche&nummer=31100+-+06H00&pid=6101265

It's just 2 bolts and the power cable.
Put your key in a safe place, not the ignition, first.

Denso 00001614 Starter repair kit

 

[ridesafe]

Thanks Erik for the multiple replies, the link for 96 Euros starter motor is very reasonable compared to US $560. I however couldn't see the pictures you posted.

 

[ErikDK]

The site doesn't like "deep links" to their pictures, but if you follow the first link, you can see them.

 

[NORM7]

My starter on a 2008 AN400-K8 is 31100-06H00 also. It failed while I was testing a repair attempt of the STVA with FI light remaining on. The end part replacement with the brush assembly is the same for all models from 2003 to 2009 according to an OEM parts outlet, and it's likely that the entire starter is the same for all these.
I have currently found a similar starter with clockwise rotation, but we didn't know what rotation my model has . Apparently you discovered it in your research. Where did you obtain that information?

 

[NORM7]

I have my starter motor out and apart. It has 2 of the 4 brushes badly worn. Got 4 brushes with thinner wires, sanded them to fit, soldered them in , but couldn't hold them against their springs to reinstall the armature. Repeated efforts to do so broke the wires. A local motor shop offered a Mitsuba starter, which seemed identical, for $109, but the terminal was on the wrong side, too close to the frame. They are trying to find a more suitable one. The said they had no experience with this type of brush holder and implied that it wasn't designed for replacement. The plastic holder is soldered in, impossible to remove, and a wire couldn't be used to hold the brushes. Can anyone tell me a sure way to hold those brushes for installation???--or suggest a local rebuilding shop that does this all the time?? I am in Delaware.

 

[NORM7]

The service manual gives multiple cross references to remove multiple parts to get below the air cleaner box to get to the starter, they even include removing the meter panel. very challenging. Some shortcuts may be workable ,but not evident in their extensive procedures.

 

[NORM7]

My 2008 AN400-K8 starter is labeled with the same part # as your K9 and only needs brush replacements. Has your research disclosed a good source for economical replacement or repair-other than your old bike?

 

[NORM7]

Can you suggest a workable retainer to hold the (4)brushes against their springs while reinstalling the commutator end of the armature?