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Seats mods , why ship it ? :dontknow:

I recently saw a few posts on seats here on the forum which got me thinking and the light bulb went off .

(My thoughts) Shipping seats across the country seams silly if all your getting is foam adjustments ,especially if it’s only the drivers seat . Why not just remove the cover and send the foam only ? A staple gun if you don’t own one , is a lot cheaper than shipping one of these humungous seats across the country . Also if you do need a new cover you can buy a custom made one off eBay for just over $100.00 . see them here http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-Burgman-650-seat-cover-/141539018654?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item20f462079e&vxp=mtr .

Then if you can’t re-install it yourself give it to a local shop . Call me crazy , but I just don’t see the logic in paying a couple hundred dollars needlessly for all that shipping to and fro . Also if you have a compressor you can buy a pneumatic upholstery gun fairly cheaply that will last you forever . WTF!! just finding a box to ship one of these seats is a major PIA . Your thoughts ?

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Shipping our huge jetski sized seat is expensive and awkward for sure. It's size and weight does cost $$$ and finding a box is exasperating.
I have had my seat cover off several times and it is a simple task to remove and reattach (especially with a pneumatic staple gun). ;)Shaping or modifying it is for the skilled, experienced and or lucky though!
I agree that just shipping just the foam would be much easier and less costly and should work in most applications. I have found that 1/2" memory foam over 1" of closed cell foam after shaving it down makes my tush happy all day long.
 

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As I am on the other end of your post, I totally agree with you. However, the times that I have tried to convey that same sentiment, the customers would get confused that I was trying to sell them something else. If the shipping is cheaper, the product is cheaper. However, I found it best to just drop that conversation all together.

Only 1 customer has actually had me ship just the padded foam. It was about $40 shipping(both ways) compared to $100. I even shipped them the staple remover and staple gun, loaded with staples. It worked out well for him.

That being said, many of the owners do not have a garage or the space for the DIY stuff. It can be daunting if you are not the handyman. Others are older and do not want to do the work. They would rather pay someone else to do the work. In the case of a really customized seat, it can not be helped. Luckily, I do a fair amount of local business, so those do not have to do any shipping.

All of that being said, being a Burgman owner myself, I send out the finished product, so the customer does not have to "Find The Box". They just "Plug and Play". The shipping requirements are a whole other issue itself.

Many things we do, do not make sense, yet we do them anyways. It's all in what makes you happy. :)
 

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Shipping our huge jetski sized seat is expensive and awkward for sure. It's size and weight does cost $$$ and finding a box is exasperating.
I have had my seat cover off several times and it is a simple task to remove and reattach (especially with a pneumatic staple gun). ;)Shaping or modifying it is for the skilled, experienced and or lucky though!
I agree that just shipping just the foam would be much easier and less costly and should work in most applications. I have found that 1/2" memory foam over 1" of closed cell foam after shaving it down makes my tush happy all day long.
So you are removing 1/2 inch in the butt area and replacing it with a 1/2 inch of memory foam ?

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Why ship your seat just go to a local upholstry shop and have them work on it.
 

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Why ship your seat just go to a local upholstry shop and have them work on it.
I don't know why this is , but places who upholster furniture don't want to do scooter or motorcycle seats . But places who specialize in boat seating usually will do scooter and some motorcycle seats .

A side note , on motorcycle seats . Heavy leather takes a special sewing machine with a walking foot , most furniture upholstery shops either don't have the equipment or experience . Or just don't want to be bothered with a low volume business line outside their area of expertise .

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Sewing machine with a walking foot
I often learn something new on Burgmanusa.com, today I learned that you can buy a walking foot as an accessory for a domestic sewing machine, which makes it a lot easier to sew heavy fabrics or multiple layers.



http://www.stitchlab.biz/notable_notions.html
The walking foot looks like a pretty complicated contraption, but it's relatively simple to use and life-changing when working with difficult to sew fabrics such as velvets, velveteens, vinyl, leather, slippery silky fabrics and fur. It's also very helpful in matching plaids, stripes, piecing quilts and working on long lengths of fabric such as roman shades or long hems. Why?
Normal feet work with the feed dogs (those grippy teeth under the presser foot) by holding the fabric layers against the feed dogs which grip the under layer of the fabric and move it back in even increments based on how long your stitch length is set. The problem with this system for some fabrics is that the under layer is getting pulled back more by the feed dogs than the top layer which is getting pushed forward by the presser foot. This shifts the fabrics slightly away from each other. By the time you get to the end of a long curtain panel, you will notice that the ends no longer match up even if you've pinned them carefully together.
 

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Can you be sure the locals know what works on a Burgman seat?
Why would you think the burgman seat needs a specialist ? I took mine to a local shop that does all bikes large and small,told him what I wanted ,showed him a couple of pics and was happy with the results,no shipping required and I was even able to try it on the bike before it got covered.
 

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Default Seats mods , why ship the entire seat ?

Because shipping just the front half gets very messy. ;)
 

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Why would you think the burgman seat needs a specialist ? I took mine to a local shop that does all bikes large and small,told him what I wanted ,showed him a couple of pics and was happy with the results,no shipping required and I was even able to try it on the bike before it got covered.
I'd rather consult a guy like bakeisback, who specialises in Burgman seats, and thereby knows the challenges related to them and the things that are the root cause for sore rider butts.
 

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I'd rather consult a guy like bakeisback, who specialises in Burgman seats, and thereby knows the challenges related to them and the things that are the root cause for sore rider butts.

I agree 100% , it's always better to get a guy who actually rides one . I think the fact that Bake has so many happy customers proves that .

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Why would you think the burgman seat needs a specialist ? I took mine to a local shop that does all bikes large and small,told him what I wanted ,showed him a couple of pics and was happy with the results,no shipping required and I was even able to try it on the bike before it got covered.
I'm with you on going local. I delayed a couple of years trying to find the best way NOT to spend $800 on an aftermarket seat. Looked at several option including the puffy seat...finally starting looking local and found a guy in Dallas. Even though he specializes in Harley seats, he was familiar with the Burgman. We talked, I told him my problem areas and 5 days later had a great seat. Took it on an 800 mile trip a couple of week later and it performed great.

I'm not knocking any option but don't discount the local shops. The Burgmans aren't so unique that an experience motorcycle seat shop can't do a good job.
 

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I finally got myself a spare seat for my Burgman to conduct experiments on.

My main problems with the OEM seat is a sore tail bone and the seat bones.

Only the seat bone area is in contact with the scooter's seat when I ride feet forward.

I'm 5'11" in MC boots, 30" inseam and weight 165#

I have no problems with the seat being to tall, as I only need one foot on the ground, two feet are for novices.


What do you suggest I do first?

Shipping to and from USA is cost prohibitive.
 

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I finally got myself a spare seat for my Burgman to conduct experiments on.

My main problems with the OEM seat is a sore tail bone and the seat bones.

Only the seat bone area is in contact with the scooter's seat when I ride feet forward.

I'm 5'11" in MC boots, 30" inseam and weight 165#

I have no problems with the seat being to tall, as I only need one foot on the ground, two feet are for novices.


What do you suggest I do first?

Shipping to and from USA is cost prohibitive.
I would suggest you watch some you-tube videos to get some visual picture of what you are going to be doing .

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