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The 650 left me stranded once more, 12 miels away from home, this time at a gas station.

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Everything was going well as I continued to break in the CVT and was nearing the 500 miles mark.

Decided to take the scoot this morning to run some errands and after a few mile son the highway at
a steady 4k RPM / 65 MPH, I decided to get off the highway and refuel at a station where I often stop.

Everything was running well and the dash was behaving normally while under power.
As I entered the gas station and slowed down to came to a stop, I noticed that my dash went blank, except for the
clock.

The engine continued to run. Thinking that it was a parked by a fuel pump and turned off the scoot.
Tried right away to turn it back on but no joy, dead dash.

Engine would not turn when the start button was pushed.

The horn would not work either.

My headlights, HIDs would come on.

The clocked stayed on.

My onboard voltmeter would show 11.9v.

Switched to parked position and the right / left turn signals would come on individually or together
if I pushed the hazard button.

Pulled the scoot to the side and did a quick field check of the following:

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- Main fuse / CVT Fuse (took them out and checked both, replaced with spare)

- Checked all remaining fuses, they were all ok.

- Disconnected and reconnected battery.

The clock came back on, as did the headlights, no dash function whatsover, total black out.

Took handlebar and front panel off and disconnected HIDs.

On board voltmeter would show 12.4v.

Still no joy, dead dashboard and no contact of any kind.

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After spending an hour or two going over everyting, it became clear that I was stranded once more.
Was able to find a great towe company with a great driver who knew exactly how to towe a bike.

Three hours later and $135.00 poorer, the 650 back back in the garage.

Now I can use all the suggestion and possible things to check that you guys can think of?
I have started sifting through past threads to educate myself as I recall a few similar instances.

Total bummer as I was planning to go on a nice long ride tomorrow... good thing it broke down today.

I field tested the battery with a portable stick battery tester and it showed a full charge.
This motobat battery sat for a year on a trickle charger but hasn't shown any signs of having gone bad.

Got to get out the service manual again and start pouring through the electrical section.

Thanks for your help and suggestions. :roll: :( :?
 

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MJR said:
That sucks, sorry to hear. For sure check the Signal fuse to the left of the glove box. My first thoughts are battery or charging system. Having voltage is different than current to run stuff.
what would cause the dash to go out completely ...

Went through every single fuse on the scoot, they all looked good.
Will double check them again.

Battery is about two years old, sat for a year on a trickle charger.
Voltmeter would show 13.8-14.2 v when fully operational and running

I am going to need all the help I can get on this one as I am not the savviest electrical dude out there.
 

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cliffyk said:
My first suspect would be the battery.

What is the battery voltage with no load? It should be 12.6 V if fully charged--anything less then it is either not charged or has a bad cell. If you have to charge it wait an hour or so before checking the no load voltage. If you have access to a variable load tester place a 40 A load on it for 15 seconds, it should hold at least 10.5 V.
thanks, I will take it to a shop and have them load test it properly.
my onboard voltmeter shows 11.9v with HIDs on, 12.4 v without the HIDs.

while the scoot was running, it was showing 13.4-14.2v on the voltmeter.

I am a bit puzzled by the complete dash black out and no starter funciton and no horn.

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couldn't sit still, so I went into the garage and put the voltmeter on the battery and it showed 12.8 v without the ignition on.
 

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cliffyk said:
11.9, 12.2 are not good for a battery that should have been fully charged. Were you able to monitor the voltage while trying to start it?
I can't start the bike, the dash is dead, nothing happens when I push the starter button.
The headlights come on, that's about it and the clock is on.
No turn signals either unless I switch to the parked mode.
I don't hear the fuel pump either.
 

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Problem solved... it was the 15 Amp turn signal fuse, I somehow managed not to see the rupture inside it.

Thanks to all that took the time to scramble their brains and come up with suggestions and ideas, it is greatly appreciated.

It sure was nice to hear those familiar start up sounds and the dash coming back to live and the tach zipping back and forth.

I had my right turn signal on when I made the turn into the gas station and everything went blank after that.

I know where the source of the problem lies, it is something I did by adding LED turn signal reminders, I will have to check
the wiring on those guys.

Moral of the story, if your dash goes blank, your horn doesn't work and your turn signals are dead, it's a pretty good chance that
the turn signal fuse is blown. Just be sure to wear your reading glasses when you stare and inspect those little suckers.

Again, many thanks to one and all, you all made my day/night.

that was a very expensive little fuse at $135.00, the towe truck guy was great though.

all the best.... the Burgman grin is back.... :D :thumbup: :p :lol:

PS: Reading those old threads helps a lot as far as learning from other's experiences. Not sure if they are still updating the knowledge base with them.
I will put together a short DIY relating to my experience and put on my Burgman Center.
 

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Funny part is that after I broke down I took my tablet out and started reading past threads and knew that the turn signal fuse was the main culprit.

As luck would have it I still managed to miss it even with pulling the fuse out.

I usually carry a voltmeter with me when I go on long trips which is bagged in a separate tool box, will have to add something to my
everyday tool pouch for around town riding.

going to stop by the auto shop tomorrow and restock a dozen 10, 15, 20 and 40 amp spare fuses.
Suzuki is nice enough to provide one spare 10 and 15 amp fuses in the fuse box.

a pic just in case people are wondering where that pesky fuse is:

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I have started working on a DIY / FYI which I will add to my Burgman center.

The scoot is totally paralyzed when this little fuse blows and now that I have been through it, I think others should know what the symptoms are:

- Dash blacks out
- No fuel pump action when bike is turned on
- Starter button is dead, no action
- Turn signals don't work
- Horn does not function
- Clock stays on

One thing that threw me off a bit is that when you switch to the park position, the turn signals will work individually or in tandem when you use the hazard button.

Thanks again for the quick replies and help.
 

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ErikDK said:
Could somebody please post a picture of the fuse box on a properly dressed Burgman?
Check the air filter DIY on burg man center it has plenty of pics of where the
fuse box is and a video

 

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Just added the DIY for the blown turn signal fuse and what to expect when it happens to my Burgman Center.

Will add a bit more fuse testing content to it later on.

DIY - Blown Turn Signal Fuse
 

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Glad to hear that you were able to find the problem and fix. I learned the hard way about this little design snafu which can totally paralyze the scoot and leave you stranded.

I now carry a lot of additional fuses and the right tool for checking them.

all the best....
 
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