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I have a 2009 Burgman 400 that has 17000+ miles on it. Just wondering what I might be able to expect for the life of this bike...in terms of mileage. I'm very good with regard to regular maintenance, etc. I do a combination of road / local commuting on the bike.

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Why do you think your ride is high milage? It seems average to me for the age of 5 years. Sure some people put very few miles a year on a ride but I would say 4000 a year would be average for a Burg.
 

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I'm at 40k and my 400 is running as well as ever. Averaging 10k per year, of late. The things that limit most bikes life cycle are generally NOT engine, tanny or other mechanical failure, although it does happen. Usually its a crash where Tupperware replacement is more than the value of the bike, or neglect from not being ridden, stored improperly or forgotten.

If you keep up the maintenance, ride it regularly, and don't crash, there's no reason it shouldn't last 75k or more. Most MC engines rev roughly twice as fast as auto engines, so they tend to last half as long car engines. Just generally speaking, of course.
 

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One of my customers with a Burgman 400 2010 model has 93k miles on the clock. He does high mileage and is on his fourth Burgman 400. He buys them new and runs them for 4 years before trading in again. He has 3 other colleagues in his firm who do the same all using the Burgman 400 for work. He covers 25,000 miles per year. He uses a bike instead of a car because he is an IT specialist travelling around Southern UK visiting many customers in towns and cities. Parking the Burgman is easy and cheap. Cars are a nightmare is some cities and expensive and inconvenient to park. The underseat storage is ample for his needs. Can't think of a much better mode of transport for him, can you?
 

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He uses a bike instead of a car because he is an IT specialist travelling around Southern UK visiting many customers in towns and cities. Parking the Burgman is easy and cheap. Cars are a nightmare is some cities and expensive and inconvenient to park. The underseat storage is ample for his needs. Can't think of a much better mode of transport for him, can you?
Sounds like me.
 

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I've put 32,000 miles on my 08 since buying it used 16 months ago and no trouble yet and than my notched steering bearings. Me loves my Burgman very very much. It's as reliable as a Honda Civic so far :)
 

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Along the same vein - new to this forum :) I am looking to upgrade my current mp3 250 (which I love BTW, just doesn't have the poop for the mountains of BC) to a Burgman 400 - hard to find in my neck of the woods unless I want to go new which I don't think the wallet will handle. I have a line on what "seems" to be a very well maintained but happily ridden '07 400 with.... 65,000 km! The price is only $1500 (CDN = to about $1100 USD) For someone that is thinking about a Burgie, IF the service records are available and up to snuff, what would the opinion be on something like this? Even if only for a season, to get the feel for it before moving up to something new(er)? I would have to be doing a lot of investigation remotely - I live a good 8-10 hour drive from the beast. Thanks in advance for any and all advice. Cheers from Canada!
 

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I have a 2009 Burgman 400 that has 17000+ miles on it. Just wondering what I might be able to expect for the life of this bike...in terms of mileage. I'm very good with regard to regular maintenance, etc. I do a combination of road / local commuting on the bike.

Thanks...Tom
that bike is hardly used.

I've got a 2001 Honda Reflex 250 with over 40,000 miles and it runs great.
 

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quaydvt, Welcome to the site.

If it's the 07 model, that was a changer over year to the newer design and bigger motor. I'd make sure it has the bigger 399cc engine and not the earlier 385cc motor. Nothing wrong with the 385, but the 399 motor is torquier and more powerful overall. The bike also has twin discs up front too so it stops just that bit better that the earlier model especially on mountain roads going down hill with full load! The frame is different also. However, you won't go wrong with either bike, I'm just saying this to make you aware of stuff, and my personal bias has crept in. Do a bit or reading on here and other places on the net about the earlier model and the 2007+ bikes. They are all good... Good luck!

ps. 17,000 miles on the one you are looking for is ok. It's only just run in, as long as it's been maintained ok it will be fine I'm sure.
 

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The 400 is a workhorse, it just keeps going. Mine has 52k mi on it and runs as well as ever, pretty much.

So the 65k km wouldn't bother me at all. The bike's engine and systems are probably fine. But it's the condition of the expendibles that should be of concern and would influence the price. At 40k miles, there are a LOT of expendibles that could need replacement, all of which are pricy; being expendibles, you're not likely to good cheap used ones either. So before you go and look at this bike, have the owner send you maintenance records.

At that mileage, it's possible the bike will need: clutch, belt, rollers, tires, front and rear brakes + fluid, spark plug, air filter, coolant & oil & final gear oil change, and maybe a new variator. I've probably forgotten something too. That's about $1k+ USD to replace those items.

So make a list and write down if or when these items were last replaced. The more current all these items, the better value the bike. Please post the results here and we can tell you if it's a good deal.

If nothing has been done... The bike has probably been neglected and I'd have serious reservations about buying it. Or at least I'd really ask for heavy discounts in order to pay for the needed expendibles.

On the bright side, once all that has been replaced, it's very close to a new bike. Should have another 65k km in her. Good luck.
 

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40,000 on an '07 400

Thank Quantum! I think 17,000 was by the OP on this thread. If it had 17K I would snap it up :) The one I am looking at has a whopping 65K km (~40,000 miles) - I guess when I put it into miles instead of kilometers, and THEN compare it to what everyone else is talking about, it really is still pretty reasonable, especially for $1500 (CDN :wink).

Had a good long talk with the seller last evening - he's an auto mechanic & has done all of his own work. Bought it new in '07 and just replaced it with a '16. Asked him why and he said "I can afford a new one, Suzuki had a screamin' deal with an extended 5yr warranty, so I bought one" :)

Sounds like he hasn't done things like changed hoses & lines; the coolant may be original, same as brake fluid. I've asked about the "final gear" oil - if changed and if so, did he use engine oil (or did he miss the update and use actual gear oil) And I didn't know about the 2 engine sizes - Thanks! I have asked about that.

So... all in all, if it pans out I may just pick this little one up and set the mp3 aside for the summer. If I really like it, I will sell :cryingthe mp3 since I don't have space for 2 (****, I almost don't have space for one! - the car spends the winter in the driveway and the snow - scoot has the garage) Thanks for the information, I will keep you updated
 

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I'm a little over 40000, on my 04. I have no idea how long she'll go, but she's running great for me. I would not hesitate to pick up any running 400 for 1000.00 -1200.00. I always like to refer to that price range as "chinese money". Meaning buying a 250cc chinese clone will have you spending that type of dough for something that might not last you 1 season. For an investment like that I feel you can recoup a large portion of your $ by parting it out if she turned out to have a serious issue. Most likely though if you can drive it down the road, catching up on the maintenance will be all that's needed.
 

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I would not hesitate to pick up any running 400 for 1000.00 -1200.00. I always like to refer to that price range as "chinese money". Meaning buying a 250cc chinese clone will have you spending that type of dough for something that might not last you 1 season. For an investment like that I feel you can recoup a large portion of your $ by parting it out if she turned out to have a serious issue. Most likely though if you can drive it down the road, catching up on the maintenance will be all that's needed.
That's about how I feel. I just heard back from the seller - has changed out the engine oil & final drive oil every 3,000 Km, changed the drive belt at 60,000 Km, it has the 399cc engine; only thing its going to need soon is a new front tire. I've made an offer and we'll see where it goes from there!;)
 

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The 400 Burgman is an amazing machine. Sounds like the Original Owner took care of it and maybe has the records. Check if any recalls were done. It has plenty of life but is not worth too much on the market so if you are prepared to do a little work along you may get a good bike at a low price. He obviously didn't trade because shop offered him even less.
 

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Thanks for the heads-up on the recalls. I'll have to look those up and check in with him. I'm sure if he knew of any they were done - whether or not he knew is another story. He has taken very good care of this little machine. I made my offer, and we split the difference $1600 Cdn/~$1200 US. Picking it up next Friday - he lives a 9 hour drive from here and is going on holiday - volunteered to ride it in my direction - save me some time & $$ on the travel.

I'm checking into the DIY service videos (Mic Bergsma on youtube is great!) so i can do more of my own routine maintenance - oil, coolant, tire swaps, rollers, drive belt, (although that shouldn't be needed for a couple of years yet) and the like, also gives me a better idea of what my ride is all about. I will let you know how it all comes out.

Thanks for all of the help.
 

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Sounds good.....just don't do what many m/c owners do and start changing things from the get go...wastes a lot of money and stock is usually the best. Ride it for 500-1000 miles before you change anything or buy accessories and then you will have a better idea of what you want.

That motor will amaze you for a single cylinder!

Mitch's videos and search are your dictionary

QM and others are the experts
 

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Thank you so much everyone! I will be all over this forum! Fortunately, there is nothing that should warrant attention on this for some time yet,. I will check the levels & condition of the fluids when I get it home, but I suspect that short of an engine/drive oil change and a new front tire (neither needed until end of the summer!) I will spend most of my time riding it and figuring out where everything is . I might like to try Dr Pulleys in it in the future if & when the weights need changing, but not even considering that until it is time to check the drive belt again (it only has 5000 km on it).

And I intend to take full advantage of the expertise on this forum :thumbup:- Mitch's vids are a great resource mainly for the visual aspect - video is great for learning hands-on skills (I'm a Vet Tech and teach up here in BC - I have made HOURS of video for my students). Plus sometimes seeing it done takes some of the "reluctance to try" out of the equation.:sign2:

Wish me luck. I plan to pick it up, slap the plates on her, toot around for a half hour or so to get the feel of it and then drive it home along the twisties (carefully!). Hopefully the weather holds out for us.
 

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The 400 is a workhorse, it just keeps going. Mine has 52k mi on it and runs as well as ever, pretty much.

So the 65k km wouldn't bother me at all. The bike's engine and systems are probably fine.
At that mileage, it's possible the bike will need: clutch, belt, rollers, tires, front and rear brakes + fluid, spark plug, air filter, coolant & oil & final gear oil change, and maybe a new variator. I've probably forgotten something too. That's about $1k+ USD to replace those items.

On the bright side, once all that has been replaced, it's very close to a new bike. Should have another 65k km in her. Good luck.
Hi Liamjs - Thanks for the list! I ran it by him - drive belt done at 60,000, new clutch pads at the same time, brakes 2 years ago, air filter cleaned regularly, replaced 2 years ago, does the engine oil q6000 km, gear oil q10,000 km (lucas 10W40 synthetic); hasn't changed rollers or variator (says rollers were good when he did the belt but he would replace with next belt change (~12,000 km); and still has factory coolant and brake fluid (checks condition regularly).
New rear tire this spring, another 5,000 km (he figures) on the front; has changed the spark plug a couple of times. He is a mechanic and does all of his own service (once the warranty ended) so he doesn't have a lot of "records" per se) some receipts for parts and supplies but that's about it. He's bringing them.

Most of his riding is faster speed commuting, not much slow stop/start in town stuff; from what I can see, my only major concerns (if I'm getting the straight goods!) would be the brake & coolant fluids. Those I will probably have done right off the bat. I will probably book a check-over with the local Suzuki shop and have those done at the same time.

So - we agreed on $1625 (CDN :) ) and he is basically delivering it to me which saves me about 20 hours of travel plus gas and trailer costs! I am hoping that this little girl turns out to be as solid as she sounds.
 

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Hi Liamjs - Thanks for the list! I ran it by him - drive belt done at 60,000, new clutch pads at the same time, brakes 2 years ago, air filter cleaned regularly, replaced 2 years ago, does the engine oil q6000 km, gear oil q10,000 km (lucas 10W40 synthetic); hasn't changed rollers or variator (says rollers were good when he did the belt but he would replace with next belt change (~12,000 km); and still has factory coolant and brake fluid (checks condition regularly).
New rear tire this spring, another 5,000 km (he figures) on the front; has changed the spark plug a couple of times. He is a mechanic and does all of his own service (once the warranty ended) so he doesn't have a lot of "records" per se) some receipts for parts and supplies but that's about it. He's bringing them.

Most of his riding is faster speed commuting, not much slow stop/start in town stuff; from what I can see, my only major concerns (if I'm getting the straight goods!) would be the brake & coolant fluids. Those I will probably have done right off the bat. I will probably book a check-over with the local Suzuki shop and have those done at the same time.

So - we agreed on $1625 (CDN :) ) and he is basically delivering it to me which saves me about 20 hours of travel plus gas and trailer costs! I am hoping that this little girl turns out to be as solid as she sounds.
Hey, That sounds like a heck of a deal! Nice find sir!

Brake fluid is no big deal. You can do it yourself for a few bucks, it's easy. Coolant should absolutely be changed, $100 at the dealer. But other than that, sounds like you'll be good to go.

Start prepping the MP3 for sale... Seriously. I doubt it'll stay the summer once you ride the 400. My buddy has one, eh. I rode it, nice bike, but the 400 blows it away. Also, I don't trust the steering on those things. Same buddy had an MP3 400 and steering locked up during a turn, wound up in soft sand on the road side (thankfully). Happened right in front of me. 5 minutes earlier and it would have been off a cliff at 6k feet. I'll stick to simple forks, tube and head thank you very much. Not much to go wrong there.

So congratulations and enjoy. Let us know all about it.
 
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