Rear tire change on a 400

Hi

I am not familiar with these 'new' Burgman rear wheels.

However, I have a question for you:

Does it not have a central axle nut? If so that has to come off too!

On the old Burgers you need a 27mm socket and a fairly hefty breaker bar to shift this axle nut which is torqued to 100NM on installation.

Hope this is helpful?

Yep, Norman I figured you would have an answer. It is a 27mm nut and that what I suspected had to be moved in, to the left as you face the wheel, to allow clearance to remove the hub and wheel. I plugged it, the tire, and can now take it to a shop.
Thanks :lol:

garyw0cki said:

Yep, Norman I figured you would have an answer. It is a 27mm nut and that what I suspected had to be moved in, to the left as you face the wheel, to allow clearance to remove the hub and wheel. I plugged it, the tire, and can now take it to a shop.
Thanks :lol:

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Sorry Gary

I do not understand what you said (emboldened text) above or what you mean.

Regards

Norman, As I face the wheel from the rear I can see a 27mm nut which I presume holds the axel. If I remove that nut, do I have to move the corresponding bolt out of the way to allow clearence to remove the wheel.
? The clearence is such that only only a 1/2 " clearence is neede to remove the wheel.

Topic moved from 'General Discussion' to 'Burgman 400' category per NormanB's request.

Sorry, I have another question.
Can you check the three nuts that holds the rear wheel?
I worked in a tire shop for over 10 years, and last week I took those 3 nuts off and put some stud anti-seize on and noticed the lug-nut were not the proper ones. The V-shape part that holds the wheel is too shallow and the edge/corner of the lug-nut is cutting into the wheel as you tighten it because it is going in too far. What we need is the acron style with the wider/deeper V-sharp seat. I was just wondering if your is the same.(cutting into the wheel)

Thanks
Phil

garyw0cki said:

Norman, As I face the wheel from the rear I can see a 27mm nut which I presume holds the axel. If I remove that nut, do I have to move the corresponding bolt out of the way to allow clearence to remove the wheel.
? The clearence is such that only only a 1/2 " clearence is neede to remove the wheel.

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OKGary

As I said I am not familiar with this design of the Burgman wheel.
On the old burger the wheel design and the exhaust system means that the exhaust system and the lower leg shield had to be removed before you could even attempt to remove the wheel. Early design also suffered spline and spline insert failures, hence the redesign.

I believe if you remove the axle nut (and the three lug nuts) you will be able to remove the wheel without further stripping of components/bike. The corresponding bolt as you call it - is the axle and that stays with the transmission.

If you have a digital camera it would be useful if you could take 2 or 3 pics of wheel removal.

Just took a look at the service manual for "03 and '04 and it says: remove muffler, remove muffler bracket, remove 3 nuts on wheel, remove wheel.

Apparently the big nut does not have to be removed.

Wouldn't this be fun out in the boonies with a flat? I've never had a flat but I carry a plugger and compressed air gadget.

Ted, Thanks for the details. I almost did exactly that but figured there had to be an easier way.I guess that's the way I'll do it now. I also carry a plugger and will now add some type of inflating device. Not the best design! :roll:

garyw0cki said:

Ted, Thanks for the details. I almost did exactly that but figured there had to be an easier way.I guess that's the way I'll do it now. I also carry a plugger and will now add some type of inflating device. Not the best design! :roll:

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I carry a mini 12v electric air pump with me just in case I have a flat.
Since we have a huge trunk and a 12v outlet, why not.

ted clement said:

Just took a look at the service manual for "03 and '04 and it says: remove muffler, remove muffler bracket, remove 3 nuts on wheel, remove wheel.

Apparently the big nut does not have to be removed.

Wouldn't this be fun out in the boonies with a flat? I've never had a flat but I carry a plugger and compressed air gadget.

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Well it is good to hear that you do not have to remove the axle nut. The breaker bar I used would not fit in my trunk easily!!

I thought the aim of the redesign was to make the wheel easier to remove, having to remove the muffler is a real PITA - I am suprised it is necessary - or can you just remove the can on these Burgers?

One of the real problems on the older machines is that the exhaust bolts at the cylinder head rust and seize. Fortunately, the last time I had mine off - they came off easy and I put plenty of copperslip greas on them while replacing.

I am tempted to remove them routinely (say 6 monthly) to ensure that when push comes to shove they will come out.

I have to agree "Not the best design!" but I looked at it close and it really is not much of a job,
should be able to remove the muffler in under 5 min. Three nuts and the wheel is off.
But like NormanB said

exhaust bolts at the cylinder head rust and seize

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hope this does not happen

Hi, not worried about the rust as it is new and in Las Vegas, nothing rusts. Now that I see what needs to be done, seems that it won't be much of a problem. :lol:

garyw0cki said:

Hi, not worried about the rust as it is new and in Las Vegas, nothing rusts. Now that I see what needs to be done, seems that it won't be much of a problem. :lol:

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Is that due to atmospherics or because there is nothing old enough :?: :lol:

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Is that due to atmospherics or because there is nothing old enough :?: :lol:

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The bikes may not be that old but some of the riders are getting up there. :tongue:

Norman, It's apparent that you have never been to Vegas, 100F Humidity 10% It's the desert man! :lol:

Oh - so thats why they store surplus aircraft there then! :roll:


....................or am I getting confused.

Yes, that's whe they do it, annual rainfall, maybe 4/6 inches. You get that each day

garyw0cki said:

Yes, that's why they do it, annual rainfall, maybe 4/6 inches. You get that each day :lol:

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Actually Gary - you got it all wrong, thats just an average and it all tends to get dumped on us at the weekend or when we have organised an outdoor event. :roll: :x :wink:

PS: Is there an echo in here :?: