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The latest upgrade to IOS 6.0 includes a new Apple Maps app that includes a GPS function with turn-by-turn audio and visual prompts. It's as good as anything from Garmin and in some ways better. The turn prompts are timely and the next-turn display is a perfect size for easy viewing. Routing often provides multiple paths to choose from. A great part is that it supports Bluetooth for the audio prompts that come through even when you're listening to music. It's a standard app at no extra cost. Works on an iPad as well, but that's too big to carry on the bike.
 

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Well not sure about the state of the US mapping in IOS6, but it is absolutely dreadful for Europe. Apple have really shot themselves through the foot with this premature release and are now recruiting mapping specialists ( ex Google ) to try and sort.
 

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All the reviews I am seeing on TV say the Apple mapping app doesn't work as well as the Google mapping app.
 

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Well, I tried it and it works far better than the Google Maps app or for that matter Mapquest or Garmin's Navigon. For the USA the maps are up to date and the routing is correct. YMMV!
 

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To be fair to Apple, the problem doesn't seem to be with their interface to the maps which seems to work just fine. The problem is with the map data base they are running on. Unlike Google or Waze, they do not have there own map data base. They are relying on commercially available data they have purchased. That data isn't so good and is missing a lot of stuff. Folks have reported not being able to find things like a hospital or ER in their area. They have also reported areas where there is no road data at all just a blank spot on the map.

Some of the more interesting things that have popped up is the way it represents the Brooklyn Bridge http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_ ... e-maps.jpg or the way it represents the Hoover Dam bypass http://www.computerworld.com/common/ima ... verdam.jpg.
 

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They are playing a little bit with semantics there. While there is no building at 315 E 15th that is where one would be if it had that address so the GPS is really taking you to the right spot. If you plug that address into a Garmin it shows the same location.
 

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I like to have the map in my device and not downloaded in runtime.
I don't want to be without map information when the cell coverage is bad.

I'm using CoPilot. It's available on IOS and Android. It's not free, but it installs the map on the device.

I also use Waze (needs the be connected) to show the traffic situation ahead.
 

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Yeah I like to have the maps downloaded.
99¢ gets GPSDrive and then $20 for two years of very good voice guidance.
Allows downloaded maps - even worked well in Europe. A bargain in my view,

http://news.motionx.com/category/motionx-gps-drive/

Just DLed the new OS for the iPAd so will see how well the new mapping works,

GoogleMaps always a good fallback. But for ¢99 try the GPSDriver app - you get one month of voice guidance for free - brought me home from PA wilds to Toronto at midnight even with construction and detours and never missed a beat.

Nice interface with the music which cuts off when the voice guidance is on - then comes back.
I put the phone in my right hand glove box and run a usb cable up to it
I can visually check the route easily.

Voice nav shuts up when not needed on a long straight. Some natter all the time.
Has some various warnings you can have on or off - including picking up speed limits,

THere is a matching 99¢ app that has traditional GPS features as well including tracking and auto-emailing people your location/track, Still exploring that.

Best one so far for me. :thumbup:
 

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Well, I tried it and it works far better than the Google Maps app or for that matter Mapquest or Garmin's Navigon. For the USA the maps are up to date and the routing is correct. YMMV!
This is an excellent example of Apple Sheeple.
 

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The problem appears to be map data that Apple is using, not the app itself. I'm sure Apple will fix that.
 

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Though i've not used any apple products in my daily life I am using an app that has a version for the iphone. So far has seved me fairly well and has a complete map database loaded on my android for the US. There are other countries available as well. Name is Sygic, based off the tomtom map database though haven't had a chance to compare how up to date they keep it. viewtopic.php?p=545637#p545637

Only issue I've had was with routes I've imported from converted gpx files. Though likely a function of the conversion.
 

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the 'droid does it best. My Samsung Galaxy S III has awesome maps and nav and DOES Google Earth. And i didn't have to stand in line to get it. And the case isn't made of soft aluminum....LoL...and didn't cost a fortune (I have 16 gb + 32 gb). I'm sorry I have to snicker at the iPhone....and all my accessories work with it. :twisted:
 

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GPSDrive gives you a choice of whose maps are used including Bing, Google and their own and the various styles from 3d to plain jane and allows you to download the route for offline.





http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/motionx- ... 95974?mt=8

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/motionx- ... 49744?mt=8

One feature I like is its music management which lets me balance the sound of the directions against the level of the music. Of course the music cuts when the voice Nav comes in but getting the balance between levels is tricky at times and this makes it easy.
I just use it with my headphones so can play the music loud if I want and yet not get my head blown off by the directions.
Well thought through and gets better each iteration.
MotionGPS is equally intuitive but I'm not as familiar with standard GPS features loading in routes etc but that''s a winter project to learn more. It's bread crumb tracking is good.

Not yet tried the Maps on the iPhone iOS6 - maybe this weekend as I've wimped out ( so far :D ) on a Pennsylvania run. Bit chilly.

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As for cheap - SIII go $600 plus in Canada and iPhone 4 and 4S can be had for $300 ( as mine was ) to $400 and the integration is superb.

I use a case similar to this



with a very soft sticky compound and it sits nicely in the right hand glove box and stays put there and in my pocket. I just run the power to the lower outlet and the earphones to my helmet. It's well cushioned tho the thick rubber can make the outer buttons a bit tricky. The glove box shields the screen from the sun so easy to take a quick visual check

I use one like this where I can set the length and the cord is flat so the boxes close over it perfectly.

 

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I use the TomTom USA app on my iPhone. The maps are on the device, it's turn by turn, buy once and free lifetime map updates. Not bad for $39.
 

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Thanks good tip - friends use the TomTom GPS units and swear by them - did not know it was available on the iPhone.
 

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I also have installed Motion-X GPSDrive, but for where I live its prompts aren't so helpful. Here in WV all streets are named and that's what used by emergency services too. Maybe WV maps are pretty good because the result from the last few years of updating and re-gridding all maps because they are used by all emergency services in the state.

Motion-X, unfortunately, says, for example, "turn right on Cr-51" that no one recognizes instead of the Apple Maps prompt that says "turn right of Sulphur Springs Road" with the display showing CR-51 also. I've also had Motion-X fail to move the display when the arrow goes beyond it. Prompts are still correct but you sometimes have to manually move the display. Motion-X also nicely displays speed limits, but lags a Garmin in displaying your own speed. My only complaint with the Apple app so far in WV and VA is that sometimes it will only find a street but not the number of the building.
 

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