[doug collins]

This afternoon a guy from work who owns a 800 inturder. We went to a straight a way out in the country. I wanted to see what it would do. up against a bike with 200cc more engine and 50lbs lighter. I'm here to tell you. The Burgman has nothing to be ashamed of. We took off and the Burgman imeditatley took the lead and never lost it. He stared to gain on me at about 60 or 70mph. But he back off at 88mhp. I think if we would had more room to take them on up. The Burgman would have walked off and left him. I'm so proud of the Burg. I didn't rub it in as much as i wanted to. 8)
We went back to his house and he got his suzkui crutch-rocket. The Burgman didn't to bad on that one. Even if we were'nt raceing. The Burgman keep up well even in the curves. I put it in power mode,it's amazing how fast that little scoot is. Anyway it answered some question i had about performance next to other motorcycles. The Burgman is a proud machine, and it gained the respect of one motorcyle rider tonight.

 

[NormanB]

:[snipped]The Burgman has nothing to be ashamed of. We took off and the Burgman imeditatley took the lead and never lost it. He stared to gain on me at about 60 or 70mph. But he back off at 88mhp. I think if we would had more room to take them on up. The Burgman would have walked off and left him. I'm so proud of the Burg. I didn't rub it in as much as i wanted to. 8) [snipped]

Did you run out of room or did he run out of bottle?
Thanks for the report though!

 

[skootertrash]

race

hmmm. i have a 98 800 intruder and an 03 burgman, counting 1thousand and 1,1thousand and 2 etc. my intruder gets to 60 in about 4 seconds,my burger takes about 7. by the spedometers, i've seen 116 on the burger and 125 on the 800. of course the intruder is uncorked,and i've been riding bikes for about 40 years.

 

[doug collins]

raceing the burg!!

This was a competly stock 2000 modle inturder. With a fairly inexpinerince street rider. Althought he has been raceing dirt bikes for years. I've never timed the Burgman, but 7 secounds sounds like a long time too get to 60mph. One question,are you in power mode when you do this time thing? I would hate to think my freind let me win. I wouldn't like that at all. I didn't care so much as who won. I just wanted to try the burg out on a real bike. I think the inturder is a awsom bike. You have to admier the styleing, it's a real sleek machine. I didn't need anyone appeaseing me or trying to make me feel good about the Brugman. I did talk to him about it the next day. He said when reach speeds approaching 90mph his front wheel starts to wobble. So he back out when that started happning. Win lose or draw, i think the Burgman still stacks up against other stock bikes very well. It's not a crusier, it's not a rocket, it's just a scoot. It just happens to be the best scoot on the market at this time.
:roll: Now you have me wondering, did he just let me win. :roll: I don't think so. But who knows? :dontknow:

 

[pauljo]

The Burgman is very easy to launch from a stop. A motorcycle takes more skill, and there is reaction time involved with the clutch and shifting. Most motorcycles also have an excess of power for the launch, which can result in a wheelie or burnout - it is up to the rider to modulate the power effectively. The average street rider is not too good at that. So unless you are up against a very skilled rider, who is intent on racing you - the Burgman will gain a good lead off the launch (even though the test result figures on paper seriously favor the motorcycle). Remember, magazine roadtesting is done by skilled professional riders under ideal track conditions, and they make multiple attempts and list their very best results.

One you hit a certain speed, the motorcycle has an extreme power and gearing advantage, and should fly by the scooter - again, a street rider might not have the nerve to do that. Initiating a pass from 70 mph, my V-Strom is wicked fast compared to the scooter. At 100 mph, the scooter is wheezing, but the V-Strom is still charging hard. If I was passing a semi-truck, the scooter's speed at the end of the pass would be about 98 mph - the V-Strom would be at about 120 mph (both passes starting at 70 mph).

But under street conditions, the scooter has an extreme advantage because it is so easy to use all the power it has.

 

[skootertrash]

speed

i thought it was just my front wheel that wobbled. mine starts at about 100. does he have the 21" wheel? i switched to a 19" and it helped some but i don't take it past 110 much anymore,to spooky. i doubt if he let you win. 0-30 nothing can hang with a burger,and once you have that advantage,it's hard to catch up.i practice launching my bikes and other skills,plus i used to drag race.both machines are the aces.

 

[doug collins]

Re: speed

i thought it was just my front wheel that wobbled. mine starts at about 100. does he have the 21" wheel? i switched to a 19" and it helped some but i don't take it past 110 much anymore,to spooky. i doubt if he let you win. 0-30 nothing can hang with a burger,and once you have that advantage,it's hard to catch up.i practice launching my bikes and other skills,plus i used to drag race.both machines are the aces.

I'm not sure what size his wheels are, however i'll ask and get back to you on that.I'll tell him what you said about the 19'' wheels. Thanks for the info.

 

[doug collins]

raceing the burgman

I had to add this post to the one, i have allready. I was leaveing work the other night. When i stoped to talk to a motorcyle rider, who happens to be a freind of mine. We were talking about are bikes. When he reach into his pocket to grab for his keyes. He had left them on his fork lift down in the lumber yard. This guy who said he would never ride a scooter. Ask me to take him down in the yard to get his keyes. You can bet i took him up on that one. In front of God & everybody he jumped on the back of that scoot and we took off down in the yard to get his keys. You got to know this guy had broke his leg some weeks ago. He still has the boot on & didn't want to walk back down in the yard because he's still in some pain. So he rode the scoot. Moral of the story, never say never again. HA! HA! HA! We got back to the parking lot, & his boss the yard manger, came out to talk with us. He rides a 1300cc yamaha touring bike. He said get off that thing and let me try it out. So i let him. He came back after a short ride around the parking lot. And said he liked it but it was a little slow on the take off. So he was still sitting on the the scoot. So i reach over and pressed that little gray button. The power mode light came on. And i told him to take it for another spin. He did so and had a little different veiw of the burgman when got back. He said that makes it a lot more beeffy. I need to get one these for myself. The burgman wins over another one. 8)
I told steve the biker that rode down in the yard with me, that i had seen how fast his 750 vulcan was on the take off. And i was very impressed with speed of his bike. The speed limit out on the road in front of where we work is only forty mph. So he said yea, it's fast from zero to forty. And he didn't break to many speed laws. So when we left the parking lot. I pulled up beside him, & i said from zero to forty uh! And he looked at me and that scoot and laughed he said yea. We took off from the light turning right on to the highway. I was left lane & he was in the right lane. We move slowly till we got lined out. Then he got the jump on me. However the burgman hung in there with that vulcan. And didn't run off and leave me. Though i couldn't think about over takeing him i did mange to keep up. When we go to forty he back out of it. As i went by he screams out my clucth was slepping!!!! I yelled back, and told him you crusier riders allways have an excuse!!!! The last guy said he's front wheel was wobbleing. Isn't strange they only have problems with their bikes, when there's a brugman fixing to run up their tail pipes These guys down at work are great. And have pretty good bikes. We are just haveing clean fun. But they are learning to respect the burger a little bit. 8)

 

[NormanB]

Nice one - er two! :wink: :lol:

 

[Wasquid]

Last Sunday was too beautiful here in North Carolina; cool, bright, and clear. My buddies and I were about to dash down Old Liberty Road. We see a new red Honda VFR with bags approaching from the way we are headed. Old Liberty is a technical stretch with off-camber curves, a few one and a half lane bridges, little straights, and blind approaches. As we proceed through the stop sign, the VFR does a u-turn in the intersection to join us.

With the transmission power button activated, I started my run. My buddies, on a Blackbird and a V-Strom 1000, were leading at a slower pace, in deference to their bigger engines and more generous lean angles, and to my cautious style. Nevertheless, the further along we traveled, the less we saw of the red bike. When we slowed at the end of the route, the VFR finally caught up, did a u-turn, and went back on his way. Somehow, I don’t think this was the scenario he had in mind when he first turned around to follow my scooter down the road.

 

[pauljo]

I've taken to surfing some classic car websites late at night. My favorites are the 50s and 60s American cars - particularly high performance models.

Tonight I ended up looking at the 1965 Shelby GT 350 Mustang. Motor Trend Article This wasn't the fastest of the 60s muscle cars, but it did very well on the race track.

What caught my eye was the 0-60 time of 7.0 seconds. That would put it in a dead heat with a Burgman 650!

 

[Sails]

What caught my eye was the 0-60 time of 7.0 seconds. That would put it in a dead heat with a Burgman 650!

Years a go I had a 1970 Mustang with a 351 Cleveland with the shaker scoop etc., it turned out something like 330 horsepower dead stock.
The only things that would beat it were a 454 Vette and anything on two wheels.
I also had a Bultaco Matador, a 250cc enduro type machine. I went up against a Mustang 429 and it was neck and neck. He finally won, must have been a half a dozen stop lights that we did, when I missed a shift.
That bike would only do about 70 mph, big thing was that it would do 70 mph ANY place! Great bike.