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I have been following Burgmans that are for sale on this forum and another.
Seems like they take forever to either get sold or pulled from the market :confused:

I am still fairly new the the Burgman world and wonder why resales are so tough ??

Due to my continuing back problems I am considering selling my 2012 650 and hanging up my helmet. I am at a loss as to the best place to list it , or the time frame expected to move it down the road to a new owner.

Would I be better off to just trade it in at a car dealer take the loss and be done with it :walk:

Your helpful thoughts and input appreciated.

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A lot of sellers ask a too high of a starting price for their bike. I recently have been looking for a used 650. There has been two that come to mind, where I would have purchased their bikes but at the time I was looking their prices were so high, I did not talk to them. Later they lowered the price to a more reasonable discussion level.

Sell it yourself, just be realistic about your price.
 

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I try to be realistic when ever i sell , using NADA , KBB , and Edmunds as price guides .
In the last four years I sold a Goldwing , a V Strom 650, a New Triumph Bonneville , an HD Road King, and an older BMW airhead. They were all priced using those guide lines and sold very quickly.

I saw where you were looking to sell a Goldwing and or trade for a Burgman recently and then you bought a Burgman new if memory serves.

I also thought that many of the Burgmans that were advertised were possibly a bit on the high side , but were reasonably close to the usual price guides.

Are you suggesting that the market value for used Burgman's is particularly low ?
 

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A lot of sellers ask a too high of a starting price for their bike. I recently have been looking for a used 650. There has been two that come to mind, where I would have purchased their bikes but at the time I was looking their prices were so high, I did not talk to them. Later they lowered the price to a more reasonable discussion level.

Sell it yourself, just be realistic about your price.
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Check what others are asking

Hope you have it for sale on more than just this site. I had my 400 up on craigslist also. Ended up selling it to a guy who say it parked at my work with a for sale sign on it.
When I went looking for a used 650 I made a couple of offers that were in the ball park but got turned down. I ended up getting my 09 from a dealer that had a better price then I could find on cragslist. :scratch:
You will lose way more $$ if you trade it in and a car dealer will even give you less then a motorcycle dealer would.;)
 

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I think a misconseption is that posting here is the best place since they spend a lot of time on this forum so they post here first. I post here last to sell a Burgman.

On a side note, I posted mine last week, but not until I posted pictures did I get any responses. (had to remove a few items the trunk, hitch, and seat, before posting pictures so it did not appear misleading). Responses have been from Craigslist. After a week or so, remove the ad and place it in a different city. You are fortunate that there are several large cities within a reasonable drive, so posting there is not unreasonable. My last scooter sold to a guy 300 miles away.

At the bottom of the ad, add a keyword search such as "scooter, burgman, bergman, silverwing", or any word that may lead them to your ad.
 

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I think lot of the reason is location. I am picking up a 09 650 I found here that has been on the market since September. He lowered the price 4 times but being on the Eastern Shore of Va was the big problem. Just crossing the Bay Bridge Tunnel and returning the same day is almost $20 and it is a long distance. The round trip for me is almost 1,000 miles but I had to go to my daughter's house within 75 miles of the sellers house anyway.

People simply won't travel a great distance to buy a motorcycle or scooter.
 

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I found mine on cycle trader which was basically a consignment deal the seller was doing through a dealer which worked out nicely for me.
 

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I found mine on Craigs List. It was listed by a very nice man who needed to have back surgery. He had bought it when he found it here several years ago. I put Burgman 400 in the search box for nearby areas and it popped up. I found the 650 here (and later found it listed on Craigs list). I have bought several cars, ATVs, bikes, etc. from Craigs List and I have found talking to the seller directly is the key. I have good luck buying from older folks that have had the vehicle for a number of years and have a good reason for selling.
 

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Thanks for all the input folks !!

I am going to list mine for sale on this forum 2012 650 custom Cary Vincent two tone grey seat with rain cover and Izuzu backrest. 4300 miles , always garaged and on a battery tender, senior owned, freshly serviced by my dealer. $7600.00
 

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Sorry to hear your affair was so short lived. The scooter market is a finicky one for sure. I have seen local dealers holding them for months and then BAM they are all gone in a weekend. I missed out on a Yamaha T-Max when one of those buying surges hit. I agree advertise anywhere and everywhere you can to get exposure. From forums, cycle traders, Craigslist, to even on eBay. Chain it to a tree and put a sign on it in the yard. One thing I have learned is you won't sell something that the buyer doesn't know is for sale.
This is a good time to sell so you may just get lucky. :thumbup:
 

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Doug , first off this is the worst seller's market I have ever seen . In my area there are a dozen 650 burgs listed and they've been there for a long time , some for like a year or so . What do they all have in common besides being a 650 burg ? They are all over priced not to so called book value , but to the REAL market . I see you have a 2012 in the classified section with a redone seat and 4300 miles for $7,600 and NO PICS ! The seat if the wrong color might be a detriment ? I've seen a few of those here . Now the price , right now I can buy a new 2012 a few miles from my house with full warranty for 8K . So why would some one buy yours that will need a new rear tire in short order for $7,600 ? There is one for sale here same year as yours for $6,999 with 1200 miles on it , it's been for sale for about a year and it's been on EBay several times . If he asked me what to do I would tell him to list it for $5,500 and then it will sell . The simple truth is a bike is just like a car only worse , the guy who gets the privilege of getting it brand spanking new pays for that privilege . Do the math , a new 2012 is 8K , subtract from yours a warranty , a rear tire , the dealer's commission and the privilege of a new bike .
The answer I get is $5,500 . The market is the market is the market .

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Well here's my two cents, While would I spend $7000 on a 2012 or less years, when I could by brand one for $9,000. With a full Warranty, Had a friend once bought a used bike and every time It got real hot in the it just quit stop running cost him around $350 to get it running, ...I know $2000 is a lot of money,but I don't have to worry about what how the bikes been taken care
 

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Thanks for the "polite" :rolleyes: education Mr. Reaper and Mr. Smurf ,

I was afraid that your stated scenarios might be the case.

So what i get from your comments is this; If you buy a scooter you had better be sure it's the one for you , because you are either going to live with it for a long time or take a beating when you want to sell .

I will not take a beating like that , I have no real urgent financial need to sell, so if it does not find a new home at a price I can live with, I'll probably play with it .
I cannot ride it much because my back continues to deteriorate and riding just exacerbates the problem.

Maybe I'll do a real custom job, I'm thinking it might make a cool old school
"Lead Sled" , or a "Low Rider" :D

I understand that the market is what it is , and there is little I, you , or anyone can do to improve it.
 

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When I sold my 2007 400, I did what I could to make my ad stand out from others. http://burgmanusa.com/forums/41-cla...7-suzuki-burgman-400-3400-lowered-3345-a.html

I added in some text to point out the benefits of the bike, like
You can easily use this Burgman 400 for daily commuting. The aerodynamic fairing in front not only looks cool, but diverts much of the rain and cold wind around you in the winter. The seat is comfortable. After an hour commute, I’ve wanted to get right back on and ride again. I’ve ridden this bike on 10-12 hour long trips to places like Artist Pointe on Mt. Baker, the North Cascades Highway loop, and even around Mt. Rainier and Mt. Hood in Oregon. After 12 hours on the bike, the seat still felt comfortable. You will find few bikes that you can say that about.
I also made it clear that the price was not firm, but negotiable. How negotiable? That was for me to know and the prospective buyer to find out. ;) But at least it makes the bike seem more appealing.

I also found ways to repeatedly word the text in the ad so I pointed out how the bike not only worked well for a daily commute (and saved me (and them) time and money!), but was also suitable for weekend trips up in the scenic areas we have here. How many people buy a motorcycle with the idea of touring on it? Lots. How many actually tour? Few. But I was appealing to their imagination after they left the ad.

I wouldn't give up hope in finding a buyer...but I would do my homework to make my ad stand out from the others. I would also make sure I posted not only on here, but on the local Craigslist and perhaps in a couple cities.

So what drove you to buy a Suzuki Burgman 650? There were lots of other bikes you could've bought. Make sure that's in your ad.

Lastly, if Cary can't get your pictures added, PM me and we'll exchange email addresses and I'll take care of it for you.

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Thanks Daboo, I sent the pictures to Cary.
Hope he can get them on here without too much trouble.

I am a bit gun shy about using Craig's List to advertise. I don't want to deal with the Nigerian Prince and his cousin brothers , my patience with that stuff is not good at all. Everyone i know has had some sort of a less than optimal results using it as a means to sell something.

I helped a friend sell a BMW on the BMWMOA forum recently, he does not have a computer so I posted all the information and all his contact info, with a disclaimer not to contact me , but to only contact him.
In case you do not know the BMWMOA is a club with many restrictions to access their forum , the Nigerian Prince was able to track me down and pester me with stupid questions and offers. I do not deal with stupidity well !.
In my former business life my wife used to tell people that I was the original no BS model , and advised people to tread carefully.


While i like the Burgman fine it is a nice piece for what it is, but my take on it at this point as a re- sellable commodity is less than positive. Had I done a bit more research before i bought it , I would have passed. I did not plan on selling it this soon, but things change in life. No slam on the bike , but the value of a used one is about as good as a Yugo INMHO
 

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When I sold my Burgman 400, I took the advice of several people here who had sold motorcycles in the past.

One of those was to meet in a public place, not my home. One guy met me at a local church. The buyer met me at Fred Meyer. He eventually found out where I lived...but only because he bought the bike and gave me a ride home after dropping it off.

I was very particular in who rode the bike. The first guy rode it in the church's parking lot...not on the street...and his wife and kids were standing there with me.

The guy who eventually bought it for his wife, never rode it. They saw me ride up and leave with it, so they knew it worked to that level. We started it up on the center stand and they could see how it acted while parked and running. In other words, no weird noises and the drivetrain and brakes worked. He had a lot of experience, but his wife who it was being bought for, had little. She sat on it, but didn't ride it. so she knew it "fit" her.

I didn't find I spent any time on stupid questions and offers. Maybe I was just lucky.

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