[cliffyk]

I replaced the Pilot SC on the rear of my '03 400 today, it had 6000 miles on it and probably had another 500 before it would have been down to the wear bars (you do not HAVE to wait 'til then, and I do not like to).

In the 2-1/2+ years and 18k miles I have owned the scoot I have had five rear tires (including the new one), a Pirelli something or other that was on there when I got the bike and reached terminal status about 2400 miles later, two Avon Vipers that held up for an almost precise 4800 miles each, and the just changed Pilot SC that was approaching its end at 6000 miles.

I have a Pilot SC on the front that has the same 6000 on it and easily another 10000. I am very pleased with the tires; reasonably priced, good dry handling (seem OK on wet, however I am retired full-fledged geezer and try to avoid that--and if caught drive very cautiously).

FWIW: I have not experienced the "OMG" tramlining reported by others--there is only one grated bridge in the area and I have not found maneuvering it to be much different from any other bike I have owned...

 

[Scootereno]

I have their City Grips on and like them very much especially in the wet.
I will probably go with their Pilot Power Pure SC's next.

 

[Chatman128]

I've had a PP SC on the rear of my scooter for 13500 miles (10K on the first, 3.5K on the second) and on the front for 3500 miles. On dry pavement, I find they are less sensitive to road imperfections that the OEMs were. As a FL commuter (not retired but aspiring to geezer status), I have ample opportunity to ride in all types of rain. Only once did I notice anything unusual and it wasn't dramatic, more like a slight variance in the handling compared to dry. Again less than I experienced on the OEM. Personally I like them and will continue to use them.

 

[Aladinbama]

I think you'll be pleased with the switch. My favorites to this point are the City Grips, but only have a little over 1K on the PP SCs. They are the stickiest tire I've ever had (even more so that the City Grips) and have a round profile that allows some pretty darn hard cornering (I've been scraping a bit more often lately). I'll never put another Hoop on it.

 

[ph33nyx]

I just put one of these on the rear today.

 

[Mel46]

I noticed that the B400 uses 13" rims. Do you think they could handle 14" rims, and if so, where would I get rims that fit? Another question: could I put a wider tire on the rear than 130/70 13?

 

[Scootereno]

Not enough clearance...it has been tried.

 

[Elliott Larron]

Have the Pure SC Tires, Installed 2 of them!! Alone with Dyna Beads, Boy there So Smoove, There a Great Choice!! Had No Slips. The Pirelli diablo i used to have had Slipping not much but Often in Sunny Weather.. Since there were mainly for Rain..

Elliott,

 

[Yoda]

Based on the good reviews here, and good pricing at motorcycle superstore, I ordered both front and rear Pilot Power Pure SC today. I only have 3500 miles on my b400, but at the rate I am riding, I will need them this summer or sooner.

 

[gene46]

I have a 2006 400 with the stock size 130/70/13 rear. I am considering putting the Power Pure SC 150/70/13. It looks like there should be enough clearance (1.1 inches taller, .6 inches wider) and hopefully drop the RPM's a little bit at highway speeds. Any experiences or thoughts?

 

[cliffyk]

It will be a very tight fit at the front of the tire, between the tire and crankcase--take a look at that clearance before ordering the tire.

Also you do understand that making the tire 4% larger will reduce torque applied to the road by 4% also. This will reduce top speed, and may hurt fuel economy as well if engine speed is reduced at the cost of engine efficiency. The pre-'07 400 delivers it's peak torque (23.6 lbft) @ 6000 rpm, and peak HP (32.0) @ 7600 rpm. By definition this means the engine's most efficient operating range (that range where it most efficiently turns fuel and air into power) is between 6000 and 7600 rpm.

The CVT throws a lot of complexity into what the actual results of increasing the rear tire size, however be assured that there is no free lunch...