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Now for something entirely different ......Loose Women of UK...

Bluebottle, I’m not sure if this is a case of wagging the dog ?

 

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We’ll have to wait and see what her evidence is...

but,
the genome for the virus is already widely available from several sources and heavily studied. Hence the opening post of this thread. So everybody else would have to have missed something pretty major.

It’s a little confusing that she told Fox News “no foreign experts including from Hong Kong” were allowed to go to Wuhan to study the virus and it’s spread - but she, an expert from Hong Kong did exactly that. A small thing that may have an explanation; I don’t know her circumstances.

Her University say it didn’t happen and she wasn’t working on anything to do with the outbreak but China is clamping down on info out of Hong Kong, so hard to say on that.

A skeptic might say that being in danger from the Chinese govt. would ensure a successful asylum application for anybody wanting to get out of the situation in Hong Kong right now.

Until she provides the evidence she has promised we don’t really know anything.

Edit: ”Loose Women” is a daytime “does your husband leave the towel on the floor” and celebrity gossip entertainment chat show.
 

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I hope this new keyboard isn't doing the same, Daris, sorry man. Dave j, sorry for winding you up. As long as i'm arround, i'll be watching all the fun. Cheers, Plum Loco.
 

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I hope this new keyboard isn't doing the same, Daris, sorry man. Dave j, sorry for winding you up. As long as i'm arround, i'll be watching all the fun. Cheers, Plum Loco.
Looking Great Plum, glad you got it sorted.....I’m serious look for a Dual Line Stunt Kite that when packed will fit under the B650 seat.... It’s better than a Flight Sim, RC Airplanes or Drones.

Remember to start small and wear a belt...


This is more what I’m talking about....scrub to the 4:00 mark to hear it...the tug of the lines and you controlling the the direction will control the sound.... in the great outdoors .... will have your spirit flying with the Gods.

 

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I've come here from 1967!

This isn't the future I was expecting to find when I got here, though.
you might have made a wrong turn somewhen. Get married? Sell a bike? Fall off something tall?
 

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I triies to commute here but seem to have ended up in 1984 (and we’re still at war with Eastasia, we have always been...)
didya meet George? Orwell.
 

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I triies to commute here but seem to have ended up in 1984 (and we’re still at war with Eastasia, we have always been...)
Hang in there one more year, then look for a modified DeLorean driven by a mad scientist.
 

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Bluebottle,

  • The Facts:
    More than 500 German doctors & scientists have signed on as representatives of an organization called the "Corona Extra-Parliamentary Inquiry Committee" to investigate what's happening on our planet with regards to COVID-19.

 

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1st speech, 1st line - appears to be a lie. Not a good start
At 2nd untrue statement I stopped watching - measured in seconds, not minutes.

What US papers said Robert F Kennedy Jr was going to speak to 5,000 Nazis ?
Google search doesn’t return anything.
 

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  • The Facts:
    More than 500 German doctors & scientists have signed on as representatives of an organization called the "Corona Extra-Parliamentary Inquiry Committee"
Have you seen the list of these 500 Before saying it’s a fact?
Have you checked they were doctors or scientists?
Have you checked they are doctors/scientists in a relative field?
How does 500 compare to the millions of doctors who disagree?

First genuine doctor I found was a specialist in vertigo,
 

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First genuine doctor I found was a specialist in vertigo,

Dizzy Lives matter too....🤣. Oh it’ s one of those kind of groups but just in a German Flavor ....ok
 

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Remember, Dr Phil is NOT a doctor anymore but still uses the prestige.
My next door neighbor is a Doctor and is called Doctor Jamie ___ by all that work around him..... But he has a Phd in Archaeology and a Masters in Geology, not a Medical Doctor but he is really outspoken on antimask wearing and the 'Covid Farce'.
 
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Those 500 are spokespeople for the anti c19 badge? Hahahahaha wow i saw this and i couodnt stop laughing. And then i stopped and got pessed at these scammers giving people false hope. Scmbags

 

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Those 500 are spokespeople for the anti c19 badge? Hahahahaha wow i saw this and i couodnt stop laughing. And then i stopped and got pessed at these scammers giving people false hope. Scmbags

What



How could that possibly even.

No.

This is going to get people killed.
 

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Hey Bluebottle and Plum Loco.....Get ready to Shoot The Moon ! Operation Moon Shot !
We can’t currently test everybody with symptoms so I’m not holding my breath.
(for anybody who hasn’t seen this, it’s supposed to be testing for everybody in UK and regular tests for teachers, medical staff etc)

Today health workers complained they can’t get tests for themselves to know if they need to stay off work, never mind for other people with symptoms.
Local testing stations exist but unable to cope, my nearest appointment would be in Wales or Scotland but not in time to make it worthwhile (So much for avoiding travel).
 

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Bb, I wouldn’t worry about taking a test....just go about your business and wear a mask & gloves. Why visit a hot spot to get tested when the tests are so flawed.

The university reported Thursday that 13 student-athletes had tested positive for COVID-19 — a single-day record for the school.
Three days later, however, Arizona athletics said in a statement that the actual number of positive tests was just two. That means the initial numbers inflated the total by more than 600 percent.
 

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Dr. Fauci said:
“Chickenpox is a virus. Lots of people have had it, and probably don't think about it much once the initial illness has passed. But it stays in your body and lives there forever, and maybe when you're older, you have debilitatingly painful outbreaks of shingles. You don't just get over this virus in a few weeks, never to have another health effect. We know this because it's been around for years, and has been studied medically for years.
Herpes is also a virus. And once someone has it, it stays in your body and lives there forever, and anytime they get a little run down or stressed-out they're going to have an outbreak. Maybe every time you have a big event coming up (school pictures, job interview, big date) you're going to get a cold sore. For the rest of your life. You don't just get over it in a few weeks. We know this because it's been around for years, and been studied medically for years.
HIV is a virus. It attacks the immune system and makes the carrier far more vulnerable to other illnesses. It has a list of symptoms and negative health impacts that goes on and on. It was decades before viable treatments were developed that allowed people to live with a reasonable quality of life. Once you have it, it lives in your body forever and there is no cure. Over time, that takes a toll on the body, putting people living with HIV at greater risk for health conditions such as cardiovascular disease, kidney disease, diabetes, bone disease, liver disease, cognitive disorders, and some types of cancer. We know this because it has been around for years, and had been studied medically for years.
Now with COVID-19, we have a novel virus that spreads rapidly and easily. The full spectrum of symptoms and health effects is only just beginning to be cataloged, much less understood.
So far the symptoms may include:
Fever
Fatigue
Coughing
Pneumonia
Chills/Trembling
Acute respiratory distress
Lung damage (potentially permanent)
Loss of taste (a neurological symptom)
Sore throat
Headaches
Difficulty breathing
Mental confusion
Diarrhea
Nausea or vomiting
Loss of appetite
Strokes have also been reported in some people who have COVID-19 (even in the relatively young)
Swollen eyes
Blood clots
Seizures
Liver damage
Kidney damage
Rash
COVID toes (weird, right?)
People testing positive for COVID-19 have been documented to be sick even after 60 days. Many people are sick for weeks, get better, and then experience a rapid and sudden flare up and get sick all over again. A man in Seattle was hospitalized for 62 days, and while well enough to be released, still has a long road of recovery ahead of him. Not to mention a $1.1 million medical bill.
Then there is MIS-C. Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children is a condition where different body parts can become inflamed, including the heart, lungs, kidneys, brain, skin, eyes, or gastrointestinal organs. Children with MIS-C may have a fever and various symptoms, including abdominal pain, vomiting, diarrhea, neck pain, rash, bloodshot eyes, or feeling extra tired. While rare, it has caused deaths.
This disease has not been around for years. It has basically been 6 months. No one knows yet the long-term health effects, or how it may present itself years down the road for people who have been exposed. We literally do not know what we do not know.
For those in our society who suggest that people being cautious are cowards, for people who refuse to take even the simplest of precautions to protect themselves and those around them, I want to ask, without hyperbole and in all sincerity:
How dare you?
How dare you risk the lives of others so cavalierly. How dare you decide for others that they should welcome exposure as "getting it over with", when literally no one knows who will be the lucky "mild symptoms" case, and who may fall ill and die. Because while we know that some people are more susceptible to suffering a more serious case, we also know that 20 and 30-year-olds have died, marathon runners and fitness nuts have died, children and infants have died.
How dare you behave as though you know more than medical experts, when those same experts acknowledge that there is so much we don't yet know, but with what we DO know, are smart enough to be scared of how easily this is spread, and recommend baseline precautions such as:
Frequent hand-washing
Physical distancing
Reduced social/public contact or interaction
Mask wearing
Covering your cough or sneeze
Avoiding touching your face
Sanitizing frequently touched surfaces
The more things we can all do to mitigate our risk of exposure, the better off we all are, in my opinion. Not only does it flatten the curve and allow health care providers to maintain levels of service that aren't immediately and catastrophically overwhelmed; it also reduces unnecessary suffering and deaths, and buys time for the scientific community to study the virus in order to come to a more full understanding of the breadth of its impacts in both the short and long term.
I reject the notion that it's "just a virus" and we'll all get it eventually. What a careless, lazy, heartless stance.”
 
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