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This is science heavy, because ...well...it’s science :)

It seems that the covid virus, SARS-CoV-2, did genetically diverge from its common ancestor with the bat virus RaTG13 decades ago. I posted about this another thread a while ago.

This would mean it’s been circulating in the bat population for decades before making the jump to humans.

It also looks like pangolins probably weren’t the intermediate carrier, which was put forward as a possible route of infection and they just got infected by a similar mechanism to humans.

Evolutionary origins of the SARS-CoV-2 sarbecovirus lineage responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic

It talks a lot about recombinant virus happening/not happening - that is where a 2 viruses infect a cell and can share genes.
This is significant in jumping from one species to another.

Swine flu did this - a virus that can infect both pigs and people meets a virus that can only affect pigs and their dna/rna mix, a merged virus then passes back to humans bringing new traits that weren’t previously able to infect humans.
 

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Wow
 

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So,, We should stop kissin pigs?
 
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So,, We should stop kissin pigs?
Well no, you still have to practice... just in case.

If this pans out it looks like the pangolin lineage of the virus goes back 2-300 yrs and human lineage SARS /Covid go back decades, probably 1960’s
(lots of people back then not sure if it was a pig, pangolin or deadhead they were kissing and still can’t remember :) )

Horseshoe bats don’t very often sneeze in your face or poop in your lunch so it took a while to cross over (some other unknown species might still be involved)
 

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Not very cheery but there have been some German studies on heart damage from Covid1.

Randomised patients were given MRI scans months after recovering and compared with a volunteer control group matched for age.

78% still had signs of damage and 60% still had inflammation. There could be health implications after recovery from this.
Outcomes of Cardiovascular Magnetic Resonance Imaging in Patients Recently Recovered From COVID-19

Another was on autopsy results - 2/3 of cases had evidence of virus in heart tissue.
 

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There's still no "I apprecate that you posted something necessary but 'like' is an inappropriate response" button on this board.
 

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It’s right next to the “I’m drunk, please delete this before I wake up“ button

New local lockdown, small heatwave and lots of mint in the garden = Mojito Time!
Feeling a bit fragile.

Plus anything to drown out our governments stupid new catch phrase, the bloke loves catch phrases
 

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It’s right next to the “I’m drunk, please delete this before I wake up“ button

New local lockdown, small heatwave and lots of mint in the garden = Mojito Time!
Feeling a bit fragile.

Plus anything to drown out our governments stupid new catch phrase, the bloke loves catch phrases
Another scooter forum has a "Just Walk Away" button between the "Preview" and "Submit" ones.
I think it's a nice touch.
 

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Something a bit more upbeat :)

This is well written and less science (because it’s for public rather than other scientists)

It carefully explains how antibody counts can go down without meaning you have lost your immunity. It’s too early to tell how long immunity lasts but this clears up some of the confusing stuff posted/printed in fairly plain language.
Quite good for general immune system v virus background info too

The link came from somebody involved in researching medical treatments. It’s worth over-riding any pro/anti New York Times sentiment.

Opinion | Scared That Covid-19 Immunity Won’t Last? Don’t Be
 

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Another good piece,
about why it isn’t simple to develop a cure, most candidates fail and how complex immunology.

Also touches on how scientist say one thing and Joe public hears something different because technical/scientific language is different to colloquial everyday language - a common problem.


A bit more technical than the last but not full on boffin speak.

Immunology Is Where Intuition Goes to Die
 

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Another good piece,
about why it isn’t simple to develop a cure, most candidates fail and how complex immunology.

Also touches on how scientist say one thing and Joe public hears something different because technical/scientific language is different to colloquial everyday language - a common problem.


A bit more technical than the last but not full on boffin speak.

Immunology Is Where Intuition Goes to Die
Bluebottle,
Novel Coronavirus2019 is a systemic pathogen or disease that is emanated from the alphabetical proletariat, that are prominently licentiousness.

But really, Covid19 is a self replicating disease that is spread between mostly unknowing or uncaring groups of people that will not listen to common reasoning.
 
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whuut?
 

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WOW...This edit is being done to speed up a cure of Covid-19
 

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WOW edited to help find a cure fast.
 
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