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I'm curious and somewhat surprised that my 2012 650 requires an oil change every 3500 miles.:confused:
Having had 3 BMWs with 6000 mile intervals, the Burgman's 3500 miles seems way excessive, considering how much better today's oils and engine materials are.
I'm seriously contemplating doing all 3 oils with filters every 6K.:evil4:
Anyone else trying this?
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I'm curious and somewhat surprised that my 2012 650 requires an oil change every 3500 miles.:confused:
Having had 3 BMWs with 6000 mile intervals, the Burgman's 3500 miles seems way excessive, considering how much better today's oils and engine materials are.
I'm seriously contemplating doing all 3 oils with filters every 6K.:evil4:
Anyone else trying this?
Thanks
I change my oil/filter.when I think of it.!!!! No problems at all.
 

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Every 5000 km for engine/trans/filter, every 10 000 km for final drive. There's probably a margin of error in there, otherwise engines would blow up constantly.
 

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I figure it's really cheap insurance (oil + filter = $20) so I have the oil-change reminder set at 3600mi. If it goes a little over 3600, it's no big deal. Next time I'm going to change to Mobil 1 0W-40 full synthetic in engine and "transmission" (M1 10W-40 in there now). I changed the oil filter boss so that I can use the Pure One PL14610 filter instead of the Suzuki. Run synthetic 75W-90 in the final drive, which I'll change on the recommended schedule because it's so cheap, just a couple hundred ml of oil.

I just wish it were this easy to "insure" the CVT belt/bearings/pulleys.
 

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Mike, how long do you expect the CVT belt to last? There's not much talk about it that I've read. I'm at about 26k right now and I did some searching, but it would be nice to know how long they should last.
 

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I'm a novice (new rider and less than 2500 miles on my K4 with 20k miles) so I have no idea about the CVT. Frankly I'm not worrying about it, planning to take lardy on a 5000-mile trip in the spring. All I can do is be nice to it, keep the CVT cooling filter clean and not ride through floods -- although I did cover the cooling outlet with heavy hardware cloth to keep out the local parasites. Oh and I installed the Polish adapter which has about 1500 miles on it now, no problems, and changed the primary pulley stopper bolt. The original bolt had a few small nicks as expected but was fine otherwise.
 

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Change my oil like I did with my 400 at every 5k & rear end every 10k. Easy to remember 5,10,15,20 etc. Had no problem with my 400 doing it that way & was going strong when I sold it at 46k+ ;)
 

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I change mine every 4k miles now days using Shell Rotella's 15w-40 regular dino oil.
I change all three oils, engine, transmission and final drive with a fresh new oil filter.

I used to adhere to a 5k miles service interval when I was using Shells' full synthetic oil 5w-40.

as mentioned previously, if you are under warranty, adhere to the OEM recommended schedule.
 

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I change mine every 4k miles now days using Shell Rotella's 15w-40 regular dino oil.
I change all three oils, engine, transmission and final drive with a fresh new oil filter.

I used to adhere to a 5k miles service interval when I was using Shells' full synthetic oil 5w-40.

as mentioned previously, if you are under warranty, adhere to the OEM recommended schedule.
I agree. I have 46,000 on my 08 (Bought with 305 miles in Dec 2010) and have been running almost every oil change Rotella 5W40 Full Syn. I set my oil change reminder at 3600 and reset it once and when it comes back on I change all oils/lubes/filter, so 7200 miles for me. If I do put in a non-syn oil then I change it at 4,000 to 5,000.

If you look at any 50s - 80s cars oil change interval you will see 3000 mile changes recommended. Oil has come a long way, and so has engine machining when they make any 2000 and up car/truck/bike. "Iffie Lube" type companies want to keep the myth going about 3000 mile changes, they make $$$MILLIONS$$$ off of stupid drivers and waste thousands of gallons of oil every year. Fleet owners call BS and do "Used Oil Analysis" to prove that a change is needed. But these Fleet truck engines require 20 + quarts of oil and an analysis costs $25-$35 so if they can skip a change or 5, the savings are immense.

Oh well.......... :D
 

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I think that the 3500 mile interval is a worse case scenario. I think that if you run the snot out of your bike all the time and spend much of the RPM in the upper range then the 3500 mile mark is most likely a good idea.

But for those of us that like to ride at a bit more "sensible" speed then I see no reason that 5K is not safe to use. Even more so if you are using a synthetic.

I rather doubt that there are any 650 Burgmans out there that were sensibly ridden that died an early death by going 5000 miles between changes rather than the book recommended 3500 mark. If there is I for one would like to read about them.
 

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One USA gallon which is 3.8 litre of Rotella Triple Protection 15W-40 JAS0-MA approve, $17.00 approx. @ Walmart, + one EMGO 10-55660 oil filter about $6.00 @ Partzilla.

Motor + clutch + tranny oil change cost approx. $23.00 and have 1/2 liter oil left for other time or top up.

Mobil 1 or Lucas 75W90 full synthetic gear oil about $12.00 but god for 3 rear oil change.

When OEM warranty over, oil change every 3500 - 4000 mile cost only $27.00 approx.
 
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