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I was looking around my 2013 AN400A - to try and find some points I can use to make and mount brackets for some GIVI (SV200 Silver Range - Large) Soft Bags I bought, and I noticed that under the passenger hand rails on both sides - there are 2 Nuts molded in on the under side of the hand rails.

(I guess that is what to call them - hand rails - I am not sure).

Anyway - does anyone know what those (4 Nuts in the plastic) are for?
(Nothing is in them now)

I am not sure they would be strong enough by themselves, but with another couple they might do. All I need is enough to mount a plate or frame to keep the bags away from my Metallic Thunder Gray Paint!


If I come up with something I will post it with photo's
 

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Those 'nuts' are brass inserts that are pressed in.
They are for a Suzuki Accessories Stud Kit, for
attachment points for an elastic webbing that
would stretch across the passenger seat. I have
that stud-kit installed on my '05-400.
Other riders have purchased metric screws/bolts
at local hardware stores. Each screw/bolt has a
nylon collar & a flat washer next to the screw head.
The washer acts as a retainer, so that the webbing
doesn't easily slip off. The Suzuki kit costs about
$14...parts purchased locally usually costs about $5/$6.
If you install screws in those brass inserts, only tighten
until snug....otherwise the screws will bottom-out,
and then begin pulling out the brass insert.
I used RTV sealer on the screw threads, instead of
Lock-tite, to keep them from coming loose.
 

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Thanks Duster!

I think I will not use them for what I am thinking of, I would not want to pull them out.

BUT - I may add some hardware there in case if I ever need to use it that way.
 

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The picture on the link that JohnK posted
will give you a idea of what the Suzuki kit
looks like. Some riders have been able to
duplicate the installation with similar parts
from local hardware stores.
 

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Thanks JohnK

I work at a Machine Shop and we do a lot of work for Honda's so we have a good bit of metric and English hardware.

I may well just go with neoprene or other mesh like product - but if I can, I want to have some brackets to keep the bags away from the paint all together (Except where the straps go under the seat - that I will use some protective product for).
 

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I usually have several wash cloth sized microfiber towels laying around for cleaning and polishing. They also work great for temporary padding when strapping something onto the bike or for padding when strapping it down on a trailer. :thumbright: I'm not cheap just very frugal. ;)
 

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I bought my suzuki pegs from Lee's inc. for $19.95 plus $5.25 shipping . I done worry about scratches any more.In a parking lot someone hit the side of my 2013 burg 400 near tail light taking some of the paint off. Anyway the pegs are over priced all they are is a screw with a half inch sleeve over the threads.
 

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this is good stuff to learn !! I thought the op was riding sidesaddle!
 

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John K, on your 2nd link you posted, there are pictures of some saddle bags mounted on a members bike. I noticed both his straps are under the seat. I have mine run identical to his, but my seat doesn't want to close, so I run the forward strap over the seat.
I. Guess it works ok, but has anyone else ran into this problem. If I need to get under the seat, I have to pull the front strap apart and it just kind of droops and falls apart more then I'd like.
 

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The Givi bags I bought do not do that - I can close the seat fine.
 

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The Givi bags I bought do not do that - I can close the seat fine.
For me it was like closing a hand towel in a cupboard drawer, it can be done, but there wasn't enough gap to make it sit realistically nice. The actual edge of the seat drops down below the cargo box seal, so right there is one bend the strap has to make. I guess I'm still lost, but next time I use them I'll try with both fronts and rears under the seat.
Thanks.
 

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There will be slight differences in the thickness of straps from brand to brand, also how tight the seat seal is from bike to bike, and whether or not you supported each bag during closing to allow some slack so the straps would bend to the seal easier. All of these factors may effect how you use the bags 2 under, 1 under, or none under.
 

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There will be slight differences in the thickness of straps from brand to brand, also how tight the seat seal is from bike to bike, and whether or not you supported each bag during closing to allow some slack so the straps would bend to the seal easier. All of these factors may effect how you use the bags 2 under, 1 under, or none under.
I think you've nailed it. A combination. My seat needs to be semi slammed without anything in it's way. I also remember playing with slack a little to see if it helped. The strap ends up looking like the letter _n_
 

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I don't understand how those tiny nuts -bolts or whatever can protect the scoot if it falls over..???? As far as using a bungee cord - I do when I need to carry something large on the passenger seat and just hook the rubber-coated hooks to the passenger handrail..........
 

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