New Guy

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Welcome to the forum! Glad you are enjoying your new 400.

Welcome to the forum, I have a AN 400 and love it. Wife has a Scarabeo 150 also. I'm trying to sell it so she can do the 400, 650 for me? :lol:

Greetings :wave: and welcome to the forum!

Welcome to the forum :hello2:

Your bike should have ABSOLUTELY no trouble at idle - let the dealer know you have a problem and if the next batch of fuel produces the same result - may I suggest that you hand it back to be sorted.

It did it the first tankful. The idle wants to vary about two-three hundred RPM, dropping down to about 1K before going "KUNK." Not all of the time, just on certain occasions.

I figured they put in substandard gas for my "full tank with purchase" so I filled up with two gallon of Shell 92. That seemed to sort it out for a bit. The next tank was Citgo 89 (I avoid 87) and it did it again on that tank.

I filled up last night with Shell 89. If that doesn't sort it out, I'll try Shell 92 again and see wassup with that.

Understand that the Honda Helix has the benefit of being able to run off of varying qualities of gasoline where perhaps this B400 is a bit sensetive to such things. I'll let you know whats up. If it's not sorted out by the 600M checkup, we'll let them figure it out then.

I agree with Norman. Take it to the dealer to have the idle adjusted. I run nothing but 87 grade in my 400 and have never had it cut out once.

You should look at the thread :

http://burgmanusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1223

The 400 should be fine on 91 (Research Method) or above according to the manual. (Edit: sorry - check your manual - I am quoting from mine for an older non FI Burger)

I reckon you have either an ECU problem or FI problem/throttle set up problem.

Is it OK on the move?

@ 25MPH it feels like it's lean, but I have read that in reviews of the bike. Outside of that, she runs like a dream. Not a Honda Dream, mind you.

I'll have them sort it out @600M if I am still having problems. Friday will be a week of ownership and I have almost 400 miles on it already.

bechtoea said:

@ 25MPH it feels like it's lean, but I have read that in reviews of the bike. Outside of that, she runs like a dream. Not a Honda Dream, mind you.

I'll have them sort it out @600M if I am still having problems. Friday will be a week of ownership and I have almost 400 miles on it already.

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The lean business at 25 is the variator profile and only a Malossi mod will sort that out.

At the rate you are clocking up the miles - best you book an appointment for the 600 service. :wink:

The week I went without a scooter 'tween Helix and Burgman, I put over 200Miles on my wife's Scarabeo. With the touring shield and the big lockbox on the back, I looked like a 250Lb Mary Popin's riding at highway speed!!

NormanB said:

The 400 should be fine on 91 (Research Method) or above according to the manual. (Edit: sorry - check your manual - I am quoting from mine for an older non FI Burger)

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US & Canadian 400s and 650s should be able to run on 87 octane gasoline with 0 - 10% ethenol or 0 - 5% MTBE.

North American octane ratings use the (R+M)/2 method. Other regions mostly use the Research Method, and -- as Norman pointed out -- 91 is the equivalent rating.

If yours is running unevenly, and especially if it has stalled, then there is most likely a problem with the fuel delivery system; clogged fuel filter, gunk in the fuel tank, FI problem, etc. I agree that you should have the dealer look at it.

I filled up the other day with Shell 89...it took 2.6 gallons so I had it pretty well down. Today the bike ran like a champ.

I think the gas they put in the bike initially was old and probably had some moisture in it. I will be letting them know about that when I get my 600M service done.

Also, the highest the idle has ever been on the bike is 1300, and usually it is idling at 1100-1200. I will have that bumped up to 1300-1500 and that should straighten it right out.

Thank you all, love my Burgerking!!!!!