[DIY GUY]

Wow, if I knew how special and hard to find that bearing is, I would not have thrown it in the trash ! The splines and the part of the pully that unscrews were trash, so I figured (wrongly as it turns out) that there would be no salvageable parts in the assembly. My bad.... do not throw anythong away until the bike is up and running again.

I'm just confused why ask how to pull it apart if it's in the bin?

 

[DIY GUY]

im made an offer of 300 dollars shipping only cost 60 if anyone has cvt PM me thanks

 

[Airfiddler]

I wasn't asking how to pull it apart. I thought you were asking me. I had not read the previous posts to the thread, and had no understanding of your problem or what you were looking for. The huge time difference we have, makes things difficult.

 

[DIY GUY]

next step is POP that **** black seal. the smaller bearing should just be a sleeve bearing. it doesnt spin much. it wont be a smaller roller design. the bearing would need to carry same load as the large roller bearing. there still may be a practical rebuild solution here.

next after removing seal to see design, would be removing the top balls. are there flat spots on them? are the races scored? are the races pitted?

I would drill a little hole 1/8im bit then use pointed chisel. the seal is toast. so dont worry about chewing it up.

love to remove that ring and take pictures but that's not going to get me a new bearing.
if people are curious I suggest helping me find what I need as this post is over as far as I'm concerned.

contacted scooterman as youtube has his phone number.
I thought he has a lot of parts, i didn't realize at the time what the time was.
when he told me midnight i apologized and was about to stop the conversation then he said that's ok his up late all the time,i told him if he has the cvt primary bearing? he has a busted cvt that he was going to bin it.
he also mention 400 dollares plus shipping pulling it apart takes time.
i said that for me to pay 400 US dollares is over 600 australian money for 1 bearing.
as the new bearing i was quoted originally from 123bearings UNIT PRICE:$187.99 EXCL. VAT

Deep groove ball bearing TS2-SX03A43LLHAN-NTN - 18x75x17 mm | 123Bearing

Deep Groove Ball Bearing TS2-SX03A43LLHAN-NTN NTN, Inner diam. 18 mm, Outer diam. 75 mm, Width 17 mm, material N/A

www.123bearing.com

I also mention eBay and how expensive, he didn't like the conversation after that, he started holding me back, being on the phone as long as he could cause overseas calls were not cheap by telling me how he races Burgman and his 75 years old still working he also paints vehicles and hates Obama and china, I was thinking to my self what a nice guy, I admire people at that age still working and it went on and on for 1 hour, the last thing he mentions to me was his prepared to ship the bearing to me, I said ill pay shipping and what else just give me a quote, he said if I can make a video on youtube making a fool of myself singing abba song Fernando on the street while walking the dog. I didn't want to be rude I just said sure ill do it right now! he said to make sure you mention your name! I said sure. I ended the conversation. I believe his a nice old man but greedy and he thinks I don't receive a free overseas call in my phone plan.
i like his videos on youtube but how he treated me wasn't very nice.
I just thought of bringing this out in case you need a part and be treated like that.
if he doesn't want people ringing don't leave your number for the whole world to see.
if you have a video stating you're doing this to help people and someone calls asking for help.
if you can't just say sorry can't help you end the conversation no need to be rude.

 

[DIY GUY]

I wasn't asking how to pull it apart. I thought you were asking me. I had not read the previous posts to the thread, and had no understanding of your problem or what you were looking for. The huge time difference we have, makes things difficult.

Airfiddler 17hours ago -Hold the silver gear, and turn the part you see in this photo to the right. It will come apart?
didn't you mention this to me 3 hours ago
There is a fellow on youtube called Scooterman he has lots of these CVT parts for sale.

 

[Airfiddler]

OK , I have read through this thread......phew....... and now I have an understanding of your problem. Believe me, I feel your pain. My CVT is still apart after 4 months. Sorry your call with Scooterman did not go well. I have had no dealings with him, and after your experience, I won't bother. His videos seem like he wants to help out fellow Burgman owners. Looks like he's in it for the money. Anyone that attempts a CVT rebuild for this bike is in for a few lessons, some easy, some not so easy. The bike you have looks to be in really nice shape. Be patient, someone somewhere has what you need, for a reasonable price.
One bit of advise I dare to offer. Do not reuse the keys that hold the Primary Pully halves from turning. They are much too weak for the job and prone to failure, especially after you have taken the pully apart. Any discernable back and forth play when the pully is fully closed means failure is not far into the future. Also be sure to check out ProtobikeVR.it on the web, and youtube. They are located in Italy, where there are many more AN650's than Australia or North America, so parts should be plentiful, and hopefully cheaper. I have a friend in Tasmania, so I'm aware of your relative supply problems, and shipping costs. Protobike may have the bearing you are looking for and they also make bronze/Aluminum alloy keys which Suzuki should have used in the first place. language and translation could be a problem, but that's part of the fun right ? It would appear only brave (or stupid ) people like me, you, the dude and a few others should attempt a CVT repair. I used to have lots of hair before I started this project (my third bike), this has proven to be the most challenging so far, and I'm not finished yet. Let us know how things progress, and keep us informed. I will post another update on my project (An '05) when I have more news.

 

[Airfiddler]

What happens in Australia if your Motorcycle/Scooter registration expires ? You mention a blue ticket, what is that ? Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[DIY GUY]

OK , I have read through this thread......phew....... and now I have an understanding of your problem. Believe me, I feel your pain. My CVT is still apart after 4 months. Sorry your call with Scooterman did not go well. I have had no dealings with him, and after your experience, I won't bother. His videos seem like he wants to help out fellow Burgman owners. Looks like he's in it for the money. Anyone that attempts a CVT rebuild for this bike is in for a few lessons, some easy, some not so easy. The bike you have looks to be in really nice shape. Be patient, someone somewhere has what you need, for a reasonable price.
One bit of advise I dare to offer. Do not reuse the keys that hold the Primary Pully halves from turning. They are much too weak for the job and prone to failure, especially after you have taken the pully apart. Any discernable back and forth play when the pully is fully closed means failure is not far into the future. Also be sure to check out ProtobikeVR.it on the web, and youtube. They are located in Italy, where there are many more AN650's than Australia or North America, so parts should be plentiful, and hopefully cheaper. I have a friend in Tasmania, so I'm aware of your relative supply problems, and shipping costs. Protobike may have the bearing you are looking for and they also make bronze/Aluminum alloy keys which Suzuki should have used in the first place. language and translation could be a problem, but that's part of the fun right ? It would appear only brave (or stupid ) people like me, you, the dude and a few others should attempt a CVT repair. I used to have lots of hair before I started this project (my third bike), this has proven to be the most challenging so far, and I'm not finished yet. Let us know how things progress, and keep us informed. I will post another update on my project (An '05) when I have more news.

i just put 1 and 2 together mate.
very easy for people to receive bad influence from a person or persons
just because your an Aussie or have had bad experience in the past.
in otherwords scooterman is from US treated me bad so now all americans are bad is that how it works?

if a member puts up a post spends lots of his own time taking pictures.
wasting his own money so that new members learn from my mistakes.
everyone saying nice post, well done, keep going.
is this how Aussie scammers work?
I don't need free handouts.
I got enough money I showed my house, car, and 2 bikes I don't need to scam anyone.
I don't like people taking advantage of others by putting up prices because someone is desperate
to find a part.

 

[DIY GUY]

What happens in Australia if your Motorcycle/Scooter registration expires ? You mention a blue ticket, what is that ? Inquiring minds want to know.

we have 3 to 4 weeks to have the vehicle inspected for renewal registration we call it a pink slip.
If a bike has been out of registration for a year it will need full inspection other words they pick the crap
out of the bike and make you waste unnecessary money, its called a blue slip
i believe you share the same or similar law

 

[DIY GUY]

ProtobikeVR only sells complete cvt's
scooterman doesn't realize I have a channel on youtube with 100 subscribers
I'll be making a video about how well I have been treated it's going to be good advertising.
I wonder how many calls his going to get

 

[jerryd]

there are some used belts on ebay. maybe contact those people to see if they have ? maybe get lucky that way

 

[zrx212]

we have 3 to 4 weeks to have the vehicle inspected for renewal registration we call it a pink slip.
If a bike has been out of registration for a year it will need full inspection other words they pick the crap
out of the bike and make you waste unnecessary money, its called a blue slip
i believe you share the same or similar law

Vehicle yearly safety/emissions inspection in the USA are not the same on every state, for example (in general) California has some of the strictest rules. where here in Florida (in general) we don't have either safety or emissions checks, in lots of states motorcycles are exempt. I used the words "in general" because even within a state, rules can change in certain areas/cities/counties, etc.

 

[DIY GUY]

Vehicle yearly safety/emissions inspection in the USA are not the same on every state, for example (in general) California has some of the strictest rules. where here in Florida (in general) we don't have either safety or emissions checks, in lots of states motorcycles are exempt. I used the words "in general" because even within a state, rules can change in certain areas/cities/counties, etc.

i love it .
your right on the money everywhere is different.
NSW, QLD, VIC, etc
have different rules for example :
A statutory write-off:
This is when your car or bike will never be safe to drive again, regardless of how much repair work was to go into it. This means it can't ever be registered again and is nothing more than scrap metal.
A repairable write-off.
A repairable write-off is when repairs would be possible, but the cost of making them is more than the policy's sum insured (also known as the agreed value) or exceeds the car's market value prior to the accident.
NSW wiill never repair write-off regardless how small repairs are.
QLD, VIC they have Vehicle Identity Validation (VIV) you can but you go through hell, keep all receipts and vehicle gets picked from top to bottom .
im sure US is very similar .
Blue Slip
An Authorised Unregistered Vehicle Inspection report (blue slip) verifies that an unregistered vehicle is safe, and it meets design and identity standards. All unregistered need a blue slip inspection before they can be registered in NSW.
Pink Slip
To renew your vehicle registration in NSW, most light vehicles that are more than 5 years old, must undergo a safety check (pink slip) to ensure they meet minimum safety requirements.

 

[DIY GUY]

Price is up to $400 Aus dollars ($267 US$) whoever sends me CVT parts that I need. PayPal for payment.

If no one can help, the bike is going on sale.

I need an answer today.

 

[cooperman]

Just on the off chance tried my UK bearing guys, looks like they drew a blank also

Good afternoon Steve,

Thanks for supplying this additional information; with it we have approached NTN directly but as expected they have advised that this is an OEM component exclusive to the automotive industry and we do not have access to the distribution of it.

We have even pushed this out to our wider distributor network to see if anyone had any surplus stock but alas this was not the case.

Thank you for the opportunity, unfortunately however on this occasion, we are unable to respond to your request for prices with a quotation.

We hope that you will still consider us should another opportunity arise in the future.

 

[Airfiddler]

Heck, for that much I would consider going back to the recycle center and see if it was still in the bin. It would sure help offset the $$ I spent on my restoration. (Joke) as the recycle center does not allow scavenging.

 

[BurgDanno]

Heck, for that much I would consider going back to the recycle center and see if it was still in the bin. It would sure help offset the $$ I spent on my restoration. (Joke) as the recycle center does not allow scavenging.

You might tell them you left an important part you need badly...

 

[cooperman]

I asked simply bearings about trying to make up the item and this is the reply.

Hello Steve,

I've discussed this with my technical team and they have advised that the best we can offer is the following:

Major Brand 63/322RSNR Rubber Sealed Deep Groove Ball Bearing with Snap Ring 32x Simply Bearings Ltd

Fitted into the following:

NSK 6804DD Thin Section Rubber Sealed Deep Groove Ball Bearing 20x32x7mm Simply Bearings Ltd

The main thing to consider however, is the inside diameter. This has a 20mm ID and unfortunately it is the closest thing we can offer.


So could the 20mm ID issue be resolved???

 

[cooperman]

Would something like this work to get the shaft size to 20mm

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Bearings-Wrapped-Oilless-Bushing/dp/B09R7M9M8F?th=1

 

[Dave_J]

Would something like this work to get the shaft size to 20mm

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Bearings-Wrapped-Oilless-Bushing/dp/B09R7M9M8F?th=1

Being it is a mild steel sleeve coated in copper/bronze, if it fit the diameters than it could be maybe sand blasted then press fitted and three fast tack welds will make it as one unit.

I would not see any issues with cobbling up a bearing using sleeve bushings and tack welding everything tight.

It's not like it will fail in the life of the engine itself.