[DIY GUY]

now you got me thinking LOL
what if there are small Bering where the shaft sits in that chrome part ring
it didn't move it was hard and solid looks like going back to the guy see if there is and what can we do about
thanks for your knowledge
jerryd

 

[DIY GUY]

and I am 99.9 % sure I am right.

you are talking to a transmission mechanic of 40 years. there are two sets of seals on the bearing. outer blue set, inner black set.

for you to be right they not only made a two part spacer when one spacer would save money., they also made one of those two spacers in the shape of a seal.

if your right whats the best thing i can do buy small bearing 45mm with 18mm bore

 

[DIY GUY]

if you are right what's the best thing I can do is buy a small bearing of 45mm with an 18mm bore

If I got this information earlier I would have stopped this wasting money, well, this means we worked out the mystery of the bearing being destroyed.

 

[jerryd]

its not a matter of buying two bearings to make one. you have a VERY special bearing there.

I only see two options
1. used bearing .
2. rebuild original

2 is unknown cost. but it wouldnt be cheap
1 is best option. got to be someone on this forum with a parts cvt that broke for another reason and has a good bearing. finding that used cvt is the hard part.

 

[DIY GUY]

its not a matter of buying two bearings to make one. you have a VERY special bearing there.

I only see two options
1. used bearing .
2. rebuild original

2 is unknown cost. but it wouldnt be cheap
1 is best option. got to be someone on this forum with a parts cvt that broke for another reason and has a good bearing. finding that used cvt is the hard part.

I appreciate your knowledge .
thank you
always seem to find out the hard way.
gees i feel like crap
you know I actually thought I would be helping someone.
i can't even help myself

 

[DarisPakar]

I appreciate your knowledge .
thank you
always seem to find out the hard way.
gees i feel like crap
you know I actually thought I would be helping someone.
i can't even help myself

You’ve helped me…. I’ve decided if mine goes bust I’ll buy another and part the old one out.

 

[DIY GUY]

thanks appreciate that,
Is anyone here that can help me with what I need?

 

[DarisPakar]

thanks appreciate that,
Is anyone here that can help me with what I need?

I put out a request a couple days ago you might want to follow up.

Meet Marvin The Martian my 2012 650 Executive with 2015...

I'm sorry Casper has to go through this here. I for one very much enjoy his posts seeing what he can do. Certainly, an abundance of skill knowledge/experience regarding the Burgman. Always remains calm, even under fire. I like what you've done. Nice job (y) Thanks. I've been doing audio since I...

www.burgmanusa.com

 

[DIY GUY]

thanks, guys really appreciate all you doing for me.
I'm in need of the bearing I just can't afford to spend 1k
I have wasted enough money on rubbish .
if you have the bearing let me know how much shipping etc
thanks

 

[DIY GUY]

I put out a request a couple days ago you might want to follow up.

Meet Marvin The Martian my 2012 650 Executive with 2015...

I'm sorry Casper has to go through this here. I for one very much enjoy his posts seeing what he can do. Certainly, an abundance of skill knowledge/experience regarding the Burgman. Always remains calm, even under fire. I like what you've done. Nice job (y) Thanks. I've been doing audio since I...

www.burgmanusa.com

thank you for trying

 

[jerryd]

I feel your pain. you have a clean bike that needs one measly bearing that suzuki shamefully doesnt sell. super frustrating to see you go through this.

if all my theories are right, its likely the inner bearing that seized first. causing the outer to overheat as balls slid instead of rolling.

 

[DIY GUY]

this post has certainly educated me and some of you at my own expense.
it could have been worse if not for Jerryd.
I'm really shocked by the outcome, got a ring engineer tomorrow let him know
not to bother making the bushing otherwise another 60 bucs wasted.
Suzuki stop making these scooters I wonder how long before they ran out of stock.
this post or thread is not good as it advertises as a bad buy.
I'm sure you understand what I mean hoping that you do the right thing and delete it.
thanks, everyone for all the help.
again if anyone has what I need pm a price thanks

 

[Dave_J]

I have seen a shafts spline with a huge spacer welded on it and a larger bearing welded to that.

Lets just back off for a bit and see if Casper or Airfiddler answers your PM's.

Don't give up yet.

 

[DIY GUY]

update :
got all my stuff from the engineer.
Luckily he has been very busy with no time for my thing.
I explain as best as I could and we both were very curious if there is a bearing.
he said by looking close to bearing, yes i believe your right.
so he puts it on vice and tries to hit the center ring with a hammer and the same size I think deep socket.
but no luck she's in there good.
he said I'm afraid if this is right it can't be fixed by me.
I wish I had more time to remove the center piece very curious about how it works, as I have never seen it before but I'm very busy.
so I got the stuff and left, I have spent about 150 dollars on bearings unnecessary.
If I only received this information in time but education comes at a cost bit like freedom
I feel for the people of Ukraine god bless them all, they deserve all the help we can give.
I'm still waiting for Casper or Airfiddler to reply but I don't think they will.
one thing i know for sure the more i give the more i get back, it doesn't have to be always
what we want,as long as our families are safe,healthy and happy thats all that matters.
i wish yous all the best stay safe.

 

[DarisPakar]

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[zrx212]

I'm really shocked by the outcome, got a ring engineer tomorrow let him know
not to bother making the bushing otherwise another 60 bucs wasted.
Suzuki stop making these scooters I wonder how long before they ran out of stock.
this post or thread is not good as it advertises as a bad buy.
I'm sure you understand what I mean hoping that you do the right thing and delete it.
thanks, everyone for all the help.

Well the manufacturer(Suzuki) blame game it well behind us, saying there's no potential issues with the B650 CVT, is like trying to cover the Sun with your hand and say is not there, "it is what it is", is best to convey the "Good, Bad and Ugly", IOW full disclosure is best, people come here to be informed, why hold back info To be specific the particular bearing you can't find, was never offered as a replacement part by Suzuki, just the next "Higher Assembly", but why install a costly parts that has the same possibilities failing or not , is built exactly as the OEM failed one

There is a design and or material flaw that needs to be addressed, need to look for a "Viable" $$$ solution or like the say "Think Outside the Box", we keep repairing to stock specifications and parts $$$, there will be no change in failure potential IMO......

 

[cooperman]

So correct me if I'm wrong, but what is needed is a snap ring bearing with OD of 75mm, we are not concerned with the internal bore size of this. But we do need another bearing with an internal dia of 18mm. The internal bore of the snapring and external bore of the 2nd bearing need to be the same so that one can fit inside the other. It must be possible to do this even if it means machining a few millimeters from the internal bore of the snapring or outer dia. of the second bearing.
Or is there a problem I can't see. lol.

 

[DarisPakar]

Thank you cooperman for picking up the flag and marching forward.

 

[jerryd]

next step is POP that **** black seal. the smaller bearing should just be a sleeve bearing. it doesnt spin much. it wont be a smaller roller design. the bearing would need to carry same load as the large roller bearing. there still may be a practical rebuild solution here.

next after removing seal to see design, would be removing the top balls. are there flat spots on them? are the races scored? are the races pitted?

I would drill a little hole 1/8im bit then use pointed chisel. the seal is toast. so dont worry about chewing it up.

 

[Airfiddler]

Wow, if I knew how special and hard to find that bearing is, I would not have thrown it in the trash ! The splines and the part of the pully that unscrews were trash, so I figured (wrongly as it turns out) that there would be no salvageable parts in the assembly. My bad.... do not throw anythong away until the bike is up and running again.