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I've been checking out my new 2013 400 and also looking at some Youtube videos on how to maintain the bike.

I was watching a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BjyR_rZ ... 1CF98D1FFC

Title - 07+ Suzuki Burgman 400 - Spark Plug Removal

This video shows a tool kit that contains a spark plug socket and extension but when I checked the contents of the tool kit that came with my bike it doesn't contain these two items.

Are mine missing on did Suzuki stop providing theses two items?

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Have a look under the seat. There are 2 small doors in the sides of the storage area. The tools should be behind one of those doors :cheers:
 

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Bluebottle said:
Have a look under the seat. There are 2 small doors in the sides of the storage area. The tools should be behind one of those doors :cheers:
I've located the tool kit - it just doesn't have the spark plug socket and extension. All the other tools are there - I think - suck as pliers, screw driver, allen wrench, shock adjuster tool/spanner, open end wrench.
 

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The factory pressed steel spark plug "wrench" is pure crap so you are not missing much. For that matter the entire kit is a cruel joke--make one up of some real tools and you'll be a lot better off if you ever need to perform roadside repairs...
 

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Checked my 2013 400 tool kit and sure enough no spark plug tools. I phoned Suzuki Canada and they advised me that the plug tools are not included any more as Burgman owners do not generally do their own service. I told the rep in no uncertain terms that he was very wrong and that just about every burgman owner I know does at least the basic stuff. He offered to sell me a complete toolkit for $50 and I politely told him to put that where the sun don't shine. Any ideas on a small thin compact wrench with a long enough reach that I can put in my tool kit?
 

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Yeah! got that right the screw drivers are a joke and the rest of the tools as well, Will be dumping them all to save Weight, Now the one to Adjust the Suspension is needed..
should have loaded some Jumper cables. that's what's we need in a kit,

My kit i built my self which I'm still in the progress of working on,

1 Fire extinguisher
2 Packs of Red Light Sticks - Which you can get from the 99cents store
2 SLI-A Stand By Battery's 12v 3Amp each -emergency use only
1 Power inverter 110v AC 400W - emergency use only Can use it to charge the Motobatt
1 AC/DC Charger 0.99 Amp which i plan to dump for an 3-4 Amp Charger with an engine start feature 0.99 amp Sucks! takes to long. Skip it?

I would like to help people broke down on the road, when somebody needs a jump, i would like to Assist them an anyway,

I all so would like to upgrade the Arsenal with a 12 volt Tire Pump , just the Device inside not the entire plastic box ,will open it take out the Motor & Gauge and Dump the rest.

you guys tell me whats missing. Which More Survivor stuff is needed in the world. that you guys can think of,

Now the tool to change the Transmission is to Heavy to carry even tho some of you carry Torque or Power Torque Wrench tools with you.

the problem is the weight that the scooter can carry and what are the Issues on Fuel with that weight , And P.S How many tools is needed to Change The Belt,variator, & Clutch and how much would all those tools weigh.

That is the Queston :roll:

the spark plug would never be a problem at least 2% failure rate often happends another great tool would be a Flare Gun but expensive.

Elliott,
 

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Elliott Larron said:
Yeah! got that right the screw drivers are a joke and the rest of the tools as well, Will be dumping them all to save Weight, Now the one to Adjust the Suspension is needed..
should have loaded some Jumper cables. that's what's we need in a kit,

My kit i built my self which I'm still in the progress of working on,

1 Fire extinguisher
2 Packs of Red Light Sticks - Which you can get from the 99cents store
2 SLI-A Stand By Battery's 12v 3Amp each -emergency use only
1 Power inverter 110v AC 400W - emergency use only Can use it to charge the Motobatt
1 AC/DC Charger 0.99 Amp which i plan to dump for an 3-4 Amp Charger with an engine start feature 0.99 amp Sucks! takes to long. Skip it?

I would like to help people broke down on the road, when somebody needs a jump, i would like to Assist them an anyway,

I all so would like to upgrade the Arsenal with a 12 volt Tire Pump , just the Device inside not the entire plastic box ,will open it take out the Motor & Gauge and Dump the rest.

you guys tell me whats missing. Which More Survivor stuff is needed in the world. that you guys can think of,

Now the tool to change the Transmission is to Heavy to carry even tho some of you carry Torque or Power Torque Wrench tools with you.

the problem is the weight that the scooter can carry and what are the Issues on Fuel with that weight , And P.S How many tools is needed to Change The Belt,variator, & Clutch and how much would all those tools weigh.

That is the Queston :roll:

the spark plug would never be a problem at least 2% failure rate often happends another great tool would be a Flare Gun but expensive.

Elliott,

With all that CRAP stored under the seat.........there is no room for 2 six packs and tequila at all.!!!! Just sayin'.....
 

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With all that CRAP stored under the seat.........there is no room for 2 six packs and tequila at all.!!!! Just sayin'.....[/quote]

All right? v8eyedoc, when you break down just give me a call, i will help you get back rolling :lol:

Elliott,
 

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Good point about the JIS drivers, the quality of the tools remains a joke nonetheless.

The good news is however that it takes just a bench grinder and about 5 seconds (or a file and a bit longer) to modify a Phillips driver/bit so as to fit JIS screw heads quite nicely; all that needs to be done is to grind the driver nose back a tiny amount until it fits a JIS screw tightly. (note: this works only only JIS screws of significant size, "#1 Phillips sized" or better. On smaller JIS screws found in electronic devices and the like use a properly sized JIS bit.)

Here are a standard DeWalt #2 Phillips bit (left), and a modified as described above bit (right):



Here is a video of them, each in one of the brake cylinder cover screws, that illustrates the improved fit

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The good news is the modified driver will still work with Phillips heads, in fact many contemporary Phillips screwdrivers and bit are now made with less "pointy" tips to accommodate this issue,,.
 

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Those are the Hardest Screws to Remove is those brake cylinder cover screws , I change mines into Flat Head Screws ,Seems to do better..

Elliott,
 

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jjzorro said:
Checked my 2013 400 tool kit and sure enough no spark plug tools. I phoned Suzuki Canada and they advised me that the plug tools are not included any more as Burgman owners do not generally do their own service.
Thanks for finding out that this wasn't a mistake but now the policy at Suzuki - too bad.

I realize it's just a cheap pressed steel tool but I'd still like to have a spark plug wrench in the tool kit just in case I need one when traveling. I found a used tool kit on Ebay from a 2007 400 that has the wrench so I ordered it - still not cheap but no where near the $50 for a new kit from Suzuki.

I also ordered this from Amazon:



http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FI ... PDKIKX0DER

It's a Topeak Pressure-Rite Anti-Air Loss Connector

I hope it will make checking and inflating the tires a lot easier as the current valve stems are next to impossible to check. I don't plan to leave it on all the time - just when checking a tire. I'm not sure it will work - I'll do a follow-up after it arrives.
 

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Elliott Larron said:
My kit i built my self which I'm still in the progress of working on,

1 Fire extinguisher
2 Packs of Red Light Sticks - Which you can get from the 99cents store
2 SLI-A Stand By Battery's 12v 3Amp each -emergency use only
1 Power inverter 110v AC 400W - emergency use only Can use it to charge the Motobatt
1 AC/DC Charger 0.99 Amp which i plan to dump for an 3-4 Amp Charger with an engine start feature 0.99 amp Sucks! takes to long. Skip it?

I would like to help people broke down on the road, when somebody needs a jump, i would like to Assist them an anyway,


Elliott,
Elliot, that's a great starter kit. I ride with a local Scooter group in Dallas http://www.readysteadygosc.com/?pid=home and I have a kit that contains:

1. Homemade jumper cable
2. Fix a Flat
3. Tire Repair Kit
4. Duct Tape
5. Basic Tools (Phillips, FlatHead, Sockets)
6. Compact Air Pump
7. First Aid Kit
8. Sun Block
9. Assorted Bungee cords

I put these in a Black & Decker bag I got from Home Depot. Comes in pretty handy when on rides and fits under the side in the side groove. Also serves as a wedge when I need to keep the seat up when digging around under it.
 

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G-Bo said:
[quote="Elliott Larron":ira18hx8]
My kit i built my self which I'm still in the progress of working on,

1 Fire extinguisher
2 Packs of Red Light Sticks - Which you can get from the 99cents store
2 SLI-A Stand By Battery's 12v 3Amp each -emergency use only
1 Power inverter 110v AC 400W - emergency use only Can use it to charge the Motobatt
1 AC/DC Charger 0.99 Amp which i plan to dump for an 3-4 Amp Charger with an engine start feature 0.99 amp Sucks! takes to long. Skip it?

I would like to help people broke down on the road, when somebody needs a jump, i would like to Assist them an anyway,


Elliott,
Elliot, that's a great starter kit. I ride with a local Scooter group in Dallas http://www.readysteadygosc.com/?pid=home and I have a kit that contains:

1. Homemade jumper cable
2. Fix a Flat
3. Tire Repair Kit
4. Duct Tape
5. Basic Tools (Phillips, FlatHead, Sockets)
6. Compact Air Pump
7. First Aid Kit
8. Sun Block
9. Assorted Bungee cords

I put these in a Black & Decker bag I got from Home Depot. Comes in pretty handy when on rides and fits under the side in the side groove. Also serves as a wedge when I need to keep the seat up when digging around under it.[/quote:ira18hx8]

Thanks,G-Bo i see you have the Compact Air Pump, that will be my next agenda and a better first aid kit, i have the 99cents store one,s it's a Joke box :lol:

#1 i will be looking into and your #9

Great Order lloyd123, with the tire thingy, Becuze when these tires gets old trying to put air into them can be a problem there's a chance that the rubber could break bending them or leak.

Elliott,
 

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"I would like to help people broke down on the road, when somebody needs a jump, i would like to Assist them an anyway"

I used to stop for people (S. CA.) but found that, if a car needs a jump along the freeway, it is more than a dead battery and you won't be able to help. Good intention though.

Yes the only tool in the Zook tool kit that is useful is the rear shock adjuster. The rest is J-U-N-K.
 

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I also ordered this from Amazon:



http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FI ... PDKIKX0DER

It's a Topeak Pressure-Rite Anti-Air Loss Connector

I hope it will make checking and inflating the tires a lot easier as the current valve stems are next to impossible to check. I don't plan to leave it on all the time - just when checking a tire. I'm not sure it will work - I'll do a follow-up after it arrives.
Well, I received the connector today and tried it out - kind of a mixed review. It was still difficult to connect everything up but I was able to check and adjust pressure in both tires. It helped more on the rear tire as it was almost impossible to do before. It was easier to access the rear valve stem from the left side with the connector. The front is difficult to get my hands on the valve stem because of the brake discs on both sides. I do have large hands. It did help so I will keep it but I may buy a new air pressure guage that will work better with the connector.
 

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Apologies for not reading the original question properly before I answered.
We were still getting the plug wrench in 2011.
I agree the tools aren't great but they aren't meant for regular use.
 

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I received the used tool kit from a 2007 AN400 that I bought on eBay yesterday. I laid out the tools from both kits and besides the two piece spark plug tool, the older kit also included an extra insert for the screwdriver that had just a phillips head on one end with the flat tip that was shown in a previous post that made removing screws on the brake fluid reservoir easier. The one thing I don't know what it's used for in the 2013 kit is a small "L" shaped allen wrench - this wasn't included in the older kit. What is the allen wrench needed for? No clue in the owner's manual.

Anyway - I now have a complete Suzuki tool kit that will fit in that small cubbyhole under the seat plus I'll have an extra adjustment spanner for the rear shock that I can just keep in the garage for easy access.
 
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