Good information, Russ. However, we should be careful to not underestimate the "wet weight" of our scooters. Gasoline weighs about 6 pounds per gallon, motor oil around 2 pounds per quart, a Burgman battery is a bit over 6 pounds, and I have no idea what brake fluid or coolant weighs even if empty.Russ Schaeffer said:The Gross weight is 860 lbs. Dry weight 405 lbs. Add 20 lbs. for the battery and all the fluids and you get about 425 lbs. So 860 - 425 = 435 lbs total for passengers and the stuff they carry...