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I went to look at a bike today and there were mostly "adventure" bikes there. all these things had a seat height that would Make it tough for a giraffe to flat foot, all shaped like a boat paddles " seats" wtf? also, no commuter bikes, only giraffe bikes and overdressed goldwhales
 

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Like your electric Zero, Adventure bike seats are not really made to sit on. You're suppose to stand on the pegs the entire time you're riding them... over felled Cypress logs and boulders, I mean gators, and such. And while riding one of those why would you want to put your feet down? You'd only get a foot bit off by a gator.
 

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Like your electric Zero, Adventure bike seats are not really made to sit on. You're suppose to stand on the pegs the entire time you're riding them... over felled Cypress logs and boulders, I mean gators, and such. And while riding one of those why would you want to put your feet down? You'd only get a foot bit off by a gator.
So what happens when u stop? Jump off beside it?
 

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Since I've got my Burgman running again, I've been bitten by the Multiple Motorcycle Syndrome (MMS). At first It seemed the only way to scratch the itch would be to get a 650 V-Strom. Seems they are hard to come by new and besides my requirements are more moderate now. Well I've decided to get a new Kawasaki Versys 300. It is all the bike I need and the reviews are stellar.

Does anybody have experience with Kawasaki products and especially this model?
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The DR650 has a "factory" suspension lowering option built in you can modify yourself. Maybe other bikes have this as well? On some bikes, like the V-strom, you can get a lower seat. A lot of folks are comfortable not being able to flat-foot at stops; fortunately I've got long legs so it's not an issue for me. Seems like being on your tippy toes increases the risk off a tip-over.
 

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Since I've got my Burgman running again, I've been bitten by the Multiple Motorcycle Syndrome (MMS). At first It seemed the only way to scratch the itch would be to get a 650 V-Strom. Seems they are hard to come by new and besides my requirements are more moderate now. Well I've decided to get a new Kawasaki Versys 300. It is all the bike I need and the reviews are stellar.

Does anybody have experience with Kawasaki products and especially this model?
There was a guy on the V-strom forum who got one and had almost nothing negative to say about it.
 

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I was looking at the honda rebel 1100 dct nice low seat height, but,,, can i lift it if it falls, and are there crash bars that can be added, there was no provision on the zero frame for crash bars, when it fell it was so flat to the ground the paint barely showed, so,,, ant crash bar wisdom out there?
 

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I currently have a Vstrom DL650 and a Burgman 650...and have had 2 Burgman 400's and several other MC and scoots.

I thought I would share a little of my experience on Adventure bike riding and scooters just too help the OP make decisions...Don't be afraid of the high clearance on these bikes they are geared and built for low rpms and ease of shifting/riding. Yes a little beginners fear has to be overcome, but it only lasts a few miles.

I love my Vstrom I am 5'10" and cannot flat foot both feet on the vstrom, but one foot is plenty. The bike is simple to ride on the streets and in the mud or streams. It has such a large front wheel it is almost hard to lay the bike over in the curves, but once you get used to it you feel almost like you are in a video game. There is no hole or bump you can't overcome. This is an adventure bike not a dirt bike, so don't confuse the two. I love riding this bike because I almost feel like I am in a tank, nothing can hurt or stop me....The road ended there is a curb and some rocks before I can hit dirt and only a little of that before the next neighborhood starts, NO PROBLEM not even a thought this bike handles all so well. It makes me smile almost as much as my Burgmans do.

This bikes power plant is based on the legendary SV650 engine and is strong and indestructible, made to abuse and always run. It isn't super fast off the line, but never disappoints in the fun factor.

Don't let any of this make you think I am a MC guy....I love my scooters and have put about 70K on various scooters. Nothing replaces the fun and enjoyment of a Burgman other than maybe another maxi scoot or small frame for in town riding.

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Like he says 👆 , not all "adventure bikes" make "Long Way Round" kind of journeys, especially not Vstroms, maybe the least adventurous of adventure bikes. (some may argue that) I've had two different generations of the DL650 and two different gens of the DL1000, all terrific bikes for rough asphalt back roads, maintained gravel and fire/logging roads, and touring on state and US Hwys or freeway. Some guys do some pretty gnarly riding on them, but they have skills I'll never attain. They are tall, but manageable, and lowering links and different seats can mitigate that problem. The seat they come with aren't terrific, few bikes come with good seats, but a little shopping or visit to a custom seat maker fixes that. I can tour comfortably on mine, commute, day rides, it accelerates and corners faster than I ever need or want, has ABS, traction control, and all the electronics and capability I'll ever need, all on a bullet proof affordable package. They can be hard to find, because once owned, most won't sell them. They are not KTM, GS, or even Tigers, but for general riding, lots of suspension travel to smooth out bad roads, upright seating comfort for all day long,with lots of luggage options, they are awesome bikes for whatever you want to do.
The Versys 300 is an excellent choice, no personal experience but from friends accounts, great bikes. Light, easy to handle, a very nice package.
 

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I would try to find a bike that fits your needs. Also why buy new? If the bike doesn't work out for you or you start looking at a different ride like you are now you'll take a big hit on the resale. I picked up a 1999 R1100RT for $2000. Put some money in it like new tires and brake lines, taller windshield fluids etc. and I have a great touring bike now. I didn't even have to pay tax on the purchase because no tax in Nevada if you buy it from a private party. Also may find a bike that was lowered by the previous owner. Mine is the black one. Werner's R1100RT the red one was lowered by him.
 

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I have a couple cruiser bikes and I have a smaller 250cc adventure style bike and I can see what you mean. They are tall and the full size ones can be really tall.
Like your electric Zero, Adventure bike seats are not really made to sit on. You're suppose to stand on the pegs the entire time you're riding them... over felled Cypress logs and boulders, I mean gators, and such. And while riding one of those why would you want to put your feet down? You'd only get a foot bit off by a gator.
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I would try to find a bike that fits your needs. Also why buy new?
I found a 2014 DL1000 in Reno with 6,000 miles for half of list price and some accessories I would have put on a new bike.
My wife and I drove to Reno, enjoyed a couple days at a casino, I bought the bike, rode it home, and sold my 2012 650 in a couple days. So three happy people ! A seller, a buyer, and another buyer ! win, win, win. oh, four, I bought, and sold.
 

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The KLR650 was always on my short list for scoots.
Or the versys.

But I once read that 50% of people trying their own valve adjustment on those V twins attempt suicide later.
 
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