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I am having a difficult time finding a 2012 Suzuki Burgman 650 Luggage Rack.
I've heard of several options.
Get a GIVI
Use long bolts
Make one out of plywood
Or steel
And some even suggest drilling holes on Tupperware, which I will not even think of.
I have a 929 Bergen top box.
Would like to try following LeDudes how to but cannot download schematic
I bought one from eBay ($125) but holes will not align.
I need help finding rack.
 

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You have a 2012 which has the passenger backrest so you shouldn't need to drill any holes as the luggage racks bolt in the same place as the passenger back rest after its removed. As far as racks go if it fits earlier models it should fit yours as I know of no changes until the one that hasn't come out yet the 2013.
 

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Suzuki hole under passenger backrest made to fit Givi top case base 100% perfect, no modifying, no screw around, just perfect bolt on and safe for passenger who to lean against Givi top box also.
 

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Gbjbany, What kind of work did you have to do to install it?

Cherie, Givi will be on my list but if I can install a universal rack, that would be my first choice.

MJR, I must have misunderstood about drilling holes on the frame cover.This rack I got looks and feels great but it just doesnt align.

I will give it another shot and hope I dont break something.

Thanks for all replies.
 

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The rack lined up with he mounts, as mjr pointed out after removing the backrest, but I needed to lightl dremelling, one of the holes because when tightened down the top of the mount was pushing the plastic a little out of shape.

But you couldn't see it was out if shape, even if you replaced the backrest, as it was all hidden
 

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I fitted a Bestem 2012 to my 2011 650 Exec with no issues.

I used the plate that came with the box. I had to drill one extra hole (for front and center bolt) in the plate, and furnish longer bolts.

Spacers were provided with the kit, and worked just fine. Was one of the simplest box intalls I've done.
Connecting the brake light wiring was a bit more of a chore (though not too much), but that's optional.

If it's a Bestem 929 (Bergen?) box you have, it should have came with almost everything you need for install.
 

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I had two bestem 929 boxes (a blue and a black) and neither came with mounting equipment - the plate yes, but no spacers or the like - so im assuming thats a 2012 box "feature"
 

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I put three of them (929's)on a C50. They all came with the mounting plate, two nut plates (for mounting onto an existing rack) and four bolt, nuts, and washers. These ordered from the Bestem site........I will add that I did state on my order form that I was doing this for a three-box set-up, and would appreciate if all were the same lock #, even offering to pay an increased handling charge. But it was not to be!
I hasten to add that other than the mounting plates , none of other mounting hardware was used,(though I have since used a couple of the nut-plates for other projects). I custom built my own brackets from 1/4" aluminum to mount, and made my own spacers for this application.

As for my 2012's, when I fitted the one to my 400, it came with hardware similar to that for the 929's. This I ordered vie E-bay (first one I did). When I ordered for my 650, I ordered from the "Burgman 650" specific section of the Bestem website, and it came with similar hardware to the 929's, plus a small ziploc bag with three spacers, for mounting to the bike. No bolts for these, though.

I assumed it was a "Burgman 650" pack type of thing, rather than a "929" type of thing. But I could well be wrong, it has been known to happen on occassion.

I've never known any of the five I've had not come with some hardware, as well as the plate.
 

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Fatjock said:
If it's a Bestem 929 (Bergen?) box you have, it should have came with almost everything you need for install.
Yes its a Bestem. ( I saw the typo after I posted but could not edit) and it looks real sturdy and of good quality to me.

Here is why the rack couldnt fit. I will try several suggestions these next few days and have a friend (welder) build a couple for me.
 

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Chérie said:
Suzuki hole under passenger backrest made to fit Givi top case base 100% perfect, no modifying, no screw around, just perfect bolt on and safe for passenger who to lean against Givi top box also.

When I search GIVI, they have selection for Monokey and Monolock.

Which of these would Bestem 929 fit? Are the tabs different size or same?
 

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Nillinator said:
Fatjock said:
If it's a Bestem 929 (Bergen?) box you have, it should have came with almost everything you need for install.
Yes its a Bestem. ( I saw the typo after I posted but could not edit) and it looks real sturdy and of good quality to me.

Here is why the rack couldnt fit. I will try several suggestions these next few days and have a friend (welder) build a couple for me.
I have the same rack on my AN650KY Exec in China. Fitted a ADLO 2012 box. ADLO manufacture Besteem boxes in mainland China. If you use the search function you can find the other posts where I post info about ADLO ( http://www.adlo.net ). I have a GIVI rack on my AN650K3 Exec in NZ also with an ADLO box for which I had to make some slight alterations. I seem to recall having a similar issue with after market rack on my 2007 where alignment of the mounting holes would not align 100% with the rear subframe on the scoot. That said though there have been many other applications where similar alignment issues have surfaced. Here's my take on it for what it's worth. What I found/find with most of these applications where something is slightly misaligned, is to use as longer bolt as possible. Try inserting all bolts into the 3 holes on the rack. Align one & tighten, a half-to-one full turn just so the thread bites and then just perhaps tighten a half turn more so as not to strip the thread. Now try the next bolt. If you do this to each bolt AND allow some movement of the luggage rack as you proceed in all plans so as to create a variation on the angles of the rack to the scoots subframe you should be able to slowly but surely manipulate the combination of the two enough to get some purchase into all three holes on the subframe enough to get all 3 bolts in. Then it's often just a case of tightening each bolt several turns at a time until the rack gives - which in my situation it did. If you had a long enough rod or something like a "locating pin" then you could also try to use that with say two of the three bolts inserted and threaded in a couple of turns, then use additional rod or the "locating pin" placed into the third mounting hole between the luggage rack and the rear subframe, and give the two a bit of flex to get the bolt hole into better alignment. Construction workers do similar with steel girders and beams etc. trying to get prefabricated holes to align.
Hope my description provides some semblance of the concept. I'd say you'd likely get there with a little perseverance, a few curse words at just the right moment, enough beads of sweat rolling down the forehead into your eye just at the worst possible time, and by twisting your tongue in just the right range of motion... and BAM you're done!
YMMV however.
 

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Hi
Would someone PLEASE be so kind and clearly explain how to REMOVE the passenger backrest on my 2012 650 executive.
I have searched unsuccessfully for proper instructions and even Ledude's does not seem to address this area.
Thanks!

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Bernd
 

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BerndM said:
Hi
Would someone PLEASE be so kind and clearly explain how to REMOVE the passenger backrest on my 2012 650 executive.
I have searched unsuccessfully for proper instructions and even Ledude's does not seem to address this area.
Thanks!
If I understand correctly you grab the bottom of the padded part and pull it forward releasing it then slide it up off the tabs. The rest should be self explanitory.
 

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OK THANKS! :thumbup:
Since I've only had the thing 3 days I didn't want to break anything so soon.
I was afraid to pull too hard on the padded cover to pop it off, but that did the trick. The rest was easy.
Now to find a nice chrome or stainless luggage rack that will mate up to those 3 bolts.
Thanks again.

Bernd
 

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I am not in love with the look of a rear top box , and wonder if anyone makes a luggage/parcel rack that mounts behind the passenger back rest ?
 

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You need to take the backrest off completely to mount the top box.
You can fit an accessory backrest to the top box.
 

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NormanB said:
You need to take the backrest off completely to mount the top box.
You can fit an accessory backrest to the top box.
That's the problem , I do not want to mount a top box.

What i would like to do is keep the passenger back rest as it is , and add a parcel/luggage rack behind it.
 

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DandyDoug said:
I am not in love with the look of a rear top box , and wonder if anyone makes a luggage/parcel rack that mounts behind the passenger back rest ?
This would replace the existing backrest.



I found the OEM pretty much useless for any real passenger comfort. While better than nothing, my wife said there is a 10x improvement using a "Fehling" backrest.

While not cheap, if you do a lot of 2 up riding, it's well worth it :thumbup:

The luggage rack behind the backrest works well.

More here in this thread.

Fehling Rack & Sissybar

Photos of my set up.

http://burgmanusa.com/gallery/d/64891-2/Avatar+2.jpg

http://burgmanusa.com/gallery/d/64894-2/imag0119.JPG
 
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