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Hello, All, I ride in Los Angeles. I currently ride a Suzuki motorcycle and I love lane splitting, which is the main reason I ride- my commute time is sometimes cut in half as compared to when I am forced to drive the car. I've lane split for years and have had only a couple of instances where a mirror will tap a car's mirror. I'm not so sure what kind of "tap" the large mirrors on a Burgman will do...
I sat on a 650 at a nearby dealer and had to wonder: If I'm in tight traffic and have to stop, will the footboards get in the way? I'm 6'4" so it's not a question of not reaching. I'm just wondering about the space availability. Any thoughts?
 

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The mirrors on the 400 are conventional mc mirrors and wil react the same as any other mc. The mirrors on the 650 are designed to fold back for storage. A light tap may or may not damage them. IMHO if you're tapping cages, you're cutting it too close.

The Burgmans have small cutouts to allow you to comfortably put down your feet. Combined with the space of the mirrors, there should be adaquate space to put your feet down. Again, if you are getting to where you are worried about having space to put your feet down, you're cutting it too close. I'd much rather 'waste time' / be late than risk damage to me or my machine. Sure I can fix/replace the Burgman ... sorta hard to replace my body.
 

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In Washington, lane splitting is unlawful. You can be cited for improper lane travel.

We get to ride solo in the HOV lanes, but that's they only way we shorten our commute.

I agree with billmeek, though, that if you've "tapped" a car more than once you need to examine your riding style/judgement.

If you insist on continuing then I'd suggest folding in your mirrors before passing between cars. Since you'll be going faster than the stuck cars you won't need them anyway. The Executive model available in Europe and Japan has push-button electric folding that is used for just that purpose.
 

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Aye. The tapping has only happened a couple of times and it was in a wide split at a traffic light. I overcompensated or was maybe looking at something rather than where I should have been.

I rarely split in moving traffic. Too scary. If it's moving, I don't need to split. I recently got behind a gaggle of lane splitting highway motorcycle cops on the 405 Freeway (the worlds second largest parking lot) and I was still scared, even though they were letting the drivers know that we bikers were out there.

I guess my request for info on the foot space/floorboard comes from my fear of having my feet any further away from the relative safety of the bike at a stop. I will always stop at a light in between lanes. Much safer there as it's impossible for someone on their cell phone, drinking their latte, to come smashing into my butt. If it's ever happened to you while sitting in your car (it happened to me), you can imagine what it will feel like while on a bike.
 

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William,

The cutouts provide plenty of space for me. Where I naturally put my feet down, my legs are not touching the bike. I'm 6 feet even and that might vary a bit based on your height.
 

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Willyum4u,

I lane split most of the way to and from work on freeway (speed limit 100kph), @ 20-70kph (moving car park) only when the two cars are next to each other so they can't change lanes on me ...

I't is legal if you indicate a lane change and change the lane by the time you come out the other side of the cars ...

When I had my 650 if the traffic was thick and tight I folded one mirror in giving you extra room to move ... both if really tight ...

Maybe electric mirror are for you ...

Greg ...
 

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Don' t know a thing about lane splitting other then what I have read on a couple of forums.
But it sounds like your saying a couple of inches (folding in the mirrors) is all your leaving between you and a hospital ?
why not leave 5 min. earlier. :?
 

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But it sounds like your saying a couple of inches (folding in the mirrors) is all your leaving between you and a hospital ?
No it is just between mirrors, not your bike or body ...

You still have 300-500mm between you and the car, folding mirror is to clear car mirror not car itself ...

The mirrors on 650 are the same height as most cars, so the need to fold them is for that ...

My 250 like your 400 are higher like normal motorcycles and go over car mirror height ...

Greg ...

P.S. - You either lane split or not it's personal choice ...
Hope this topic doesn't get out of control ...
 

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Greg said:
...P.S. - You either lane split or not it's personal choice ...
It's a personal choice if it's legal in your jurisdiction.

It's a violation of the law if it's not.

I don't want this to get out of control either, but that's an important distinction when someone posts a message saying "It's legal if you signal..." or something similar, without adding "...where I live."
 

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I live here ...

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don't want this to get out of control either, but that's an important distinction when someone posts a message saying "It's legal if you signal..." or something similar, without adding "...where I live."
 

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Greg said:
I live here ...

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Gee, I never would have guessed. :lol:

And what a coincidence; I just got off work and turned on the TV, and the Late Late Late show is showing Peter Weir's Gallipoli.

I'm just now watching one of the protagonists chasing a horse across the outback.
 

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Italian drivers

Well, I got the scooter fever in Italy last year - lots of Burgmans and Silverwings there. One thing I saw was that the scooter and motorcycle riders went to the front of the traffic lines at every red light. I saw some amazing and frightening exhibitions of weaving between the bumpers of parked cars and buses as they made their way to the front of the line! I have no idea whether this was actually legal - there don't seem to be any real traffic laws in Italy, anyway! :lol:

My wife and I stood at some busy intersections and had big laughs at the scooter races when the lights turned green. In downtown Rome, at around 5pm, we lost count at around 50 scooters launching every time the light turned green - it was hilarious! Of course, you don't see too many SUVs in Italy. You don't see much real road rage either - just a lot of healthy and spirited "competition".

This thread just reminded me of that so, I thought I would share.

Al
 

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I just got back from Rome (and Greece and Turkey) and I agree about the scooter launches. Very funny. Incedentaly, a new law just took affect there last Thursday requiring a license to operate scooters less then 50cc, where previously no such restrictions existed.

I'll post some scooter pictures soon, including FOUR people on a scooter in the walled medeval Old City on the Greek island of Rhodes.


Peace.
 
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