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Well, more back problems... :cry:

I pushed my riding a bit, did some yard work and I'm one hurting puppy...

Got a 30-60 day suspension from the Doc not to ride and take it easy.

Maybe I ought to sell after all and get that Ford Model A I've always wanted... :cry:

I'm depressed my friends.
 

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Warren said:
Well, more back problems... :cry:

I pushed my riding a bit, did some yard work and I'm one hurting puppy...

Got a 30-60 day suspension from the Doc not to ride and take it easy.

Maybe I ought to sell after all and get that Ford Model A I've always wanted... :cry:

I'm depressed my friends.
Warren,

I'm in much the same boat AND lost my job of 20 years. This and I lost my daughter AND my Mom in just a 2 week period. So, I don't have an answer yet, but working on it! When your body just aches and aches, when your heart does the same, it just ain't fun! I sit here, up all night again (4AM right now here), and I KNOW what you mean. I will let you know when I come up with a way to cheer up! There has to be a way, HAS to be.....Mike in Oceanside.
 

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I blew my back out about 2 1/2 years ago and was very depressed for about 2 months, feeling like my worth was done. Frustration got me mad enough "to give it a reason" to hurt.
I've heard and tried, several ways to get back in shape, and the least effective was drugs, the docs. tried, and using a riding lawnmower.
The most was working the crap out of my back (like sanding a deck by hand on all fours) and mowing the lawn walking.
Ultimatly I went to a PT (Physical Theripist) at asked for excercises I could do. He told me 1/2 the population has bulging discs and when you think of it, that's what they are supposed to do, the problem starts when we physically slow down, and muscles start to weaken. Working out for about 2 months, I'm close to normal. It's been about 1 1/2 years now. It has been a long road, but that worked for me.
I think the hardest part of getting old is accepting the fact you do have limitations, and not 30 yrs. old anymore, at least not the body. I do have to pace myself and slow down, which sucks for me.
At 52 I use no Meds., just vitiman "C" for the joints (wrist) really helps. In time you will find what "You" need to do. Check out other people a simular situation, and see what works for them. We are different afterall.
The reason for gel pads installed in my seat, is "shock" from bumps going up through my back. I like to think of them as my external discs.
Sorry for being windy, but I've been there, and it does get better.
 

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There is more than one person that seems to be interested in this, so let me add my two cents in as short of a post as possible. Feel free to send me a private offline message for more details.

Had a really bad back problem, sore in the left middle of my back, couldn't ride in my truck for over an hour, sit at a desk all day, or even ride my scooter for more than 50 miles at a shot. In fact, it felt like a spear coming through my body through my chest on the left side and going through my back.

Went the a chiropractor, he helped a few sessions, but it didn't help that much. A buddy told me about a person that does "deep tissue sports masasge. I went to him and it was very strange to me. He spent the first 45 minutes, starting at the feet and working up to my neck, both sides of the body, just to loosen everything up. Then he worked the back and then did some stretches. Three session in three weeks, an one session a month to keep everything loosened up. I am 100% cured. Not 90% or 95%, but 100% cured.

A few tips: Deep tissue massage requires at least 40 minutes of loosening before it is administered. Any less and they have to press too hard and the massuse (is that spelled right??) causes more harm than good.

Get a person qualified in more than just LMT, but rather sports massage and other certifications. The guy I went to works on olympic athletes.

Again, if you want details, let me know.
 

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Warren,

I'm in much the same boat AND lost my job of 20 years. This and I lost my daughter AND my Mom in just a 2 week period. So, I don't have an answer yet, but working on it! When your body just aches and aches, when your heart does the same, it just ain't fun! I sit here, up all night again (4AM right now here), and I KNOW what you mean. I will let you know when I come up with a way to cheer up! There has to be a way, HAS to be.....Mike in Oceanside.
Dang Mike... That stinks... Can't imagine the stress of pain, lost loved one's and your job: My heart goes out to you.

I've already had two major back surgeries, my right lower leg is partially paralyzed, things are getting worse... :?

Outlook stinks... We'll see...
 

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Man, there's some sad stories here... my best goes out to Pappy, loss of loved ones like that makes physical pain seem like nothing in comparison.

As for my two cents with back problems, I had really bad back problems back in '90 to '93. Nothing helped, and I mean nothing!! Not doctors, pain killers, exercises... nothing!! Looking back on it now, it turns out that that's where my body seemed to store its stress and anguish. I know this because in '93 I got divorced and haven't had ANY back pain since then!!

So, the bottom line, if you're anything like me and nothing seems to work for your back pain... look for something chronic in your life that's eating away at you. It may not be a bad marriage, it could be a bad job or a lawsuit or money problems or anything else that causes big time stress.
 

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Man, there's some sad stories here... my best goes out to Pappy, loss of loved ones like that makes physical pain seem like nothing in comparison.

As for my two cents with back problems, I had really bad back problems back in '90 to '93. Nothing helped, and I mean nothing!! Not doctors, pain killers, exercises... nothing!! Looking back on it now, it turns out that that's where my body seemed to store its stress and anguish. I know this because in '93 I got divorced and haven't had ANY back pain since then!!

So, the bottom line, if you're anything like me and nothing seems to work for your back pain... look for something chronic in your life that's eating away at you. It may not be a bad marriage, it could be a bad job or a lawsuit or money problems or anything else that causes big time stress.

For what it's worth, losing my job of over 20 years, while terrifying, has been WONDERFUL in some ways. The stress it gave me was probably killing me and the toxic waste was worse. I will find a way to smile and then go over and tickle that old Warren till he giggles!!!!! Of course, that may make his back hurt worse..... :p Mike
 

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As for my two cents with back problems, I had really bad back problems back in '90 to '93. Nothing helped, and I mean nothing!! Not doctors, pain killers, exercises... nothing!! Looking back on it now, it turns out that that's where my body seemed to store its stress and anguish. I know this because in '93 I got divorced and haven't had ANY back pain since then!!
Are you certain it was a pain in the back or was it lower? :lol:
 

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Are you certain it was a pain in the back or was it lower? :lol:
Ehh (munching on carrott) what's up Doc?
Ya know, if the back couldn't fully straighten up without pain in a bad marriage, how could anything else? :roll:
 

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Doctor K said:
Are you certain it was a pain in the back or was it lower? :lol:
Ehh (munching on carrott) what's up Doc?
Ya know, if the back couldn't fully straighten up without pain in a bad marriage, how could anything else? :roll:
Viagra? :lol:
 

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Warren, my story pales into insignificance compared with Pappy’s, to which I can offer nothing other than my sincere condolences.

Well, here goes:
When I was at University, I was a strong Rugby player and was amongst the top scorers nationwide. One afternoon when cycling home from University, a motorist opened their car door in my path and left me with spinal damage that meant I could never play Rugby competitively again. Not only that, but for 6 months I lost the use of my left arm due to muscular damage, and my brain in turn forgetting how to articulate the arm. Running was painful for about two years, and using a backpack was quickly tiring. Following on from that, for a number of years, lying down was something that was done slowly and progressively in order to avoid cutting pain.

Rugby was my life. I couldn’t imagine life without it. I lived for the feeling of the first tackle when you nail your opponent for the first time, the heat you feel on your ear as your shoulder spears into his gut, and the smell of the winter soil as you dump him onto the ground. :violent1:

I then discovered motorcycle touring, camping, hiking, Japanese spa baths (more on that later), and cooking your own dinner after catching it yourself – and beating all and sundry on a touring bike fully loaded for two on tight mountain passes. 8)

We can find other equally interesting things to do when one is no longer doable. If it comes to it, the Ford Model A sounds good.

However, before it comes to that, take Bechtoea’s advice – I had chiropractic massage and other treatments with only partial success. It took me ten years to be able to lie down without wincing. I attribute my recovery not to time itself, but to Japanese spa baths – these are not just hot pure water springs but hot springs that are rich in minerals (and are sometime opaque greens and oranges I colour) that are widely felt to have “healing” capabilities by the Japanese. Frequent bathing in Japanese spas (usually located a 4 hour ride into the mountains away, outside with panoramic views of 10,000ft peak ranges) has helped my back to recover significantly. As you don’t have easy access to these :sad5: I’d have a go at deep tissue massage as Bechtoea suggests. It sounds like it may do the trick.
 

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Pappy said:
Warren said:
Well, more back problems... :cry:

I pushed my riding a bit, did some yard work and I'm one hurting puppy...

Got a 30-60 day suspension from the Doc not to ride and take it easy.

Maybe I ought to sell after all and get that Ford Model A I've always wanted... :cry:

I'm depressed my friends.
Warren,

I'm in much the same boat AND lost my job of 20 years. This and I lost my daughter AND my Mom in just a 2 week period. So, I don't have an answer yet, but working on it! When your body just aches and aches, when your heart does the same, it just ain't fun! I sit here, up all night again (4AM right now here), and I KNOW what you mean. I will let you know when I come up with a way to cheer up! There has to be a way, HAS to be.....Mike in Oceanside.
Sorry for your loses Mike. I've had a bad back since I was 22-weightlifting injury. I've tried all the therapys and seen the best doctors[ my dad was a radioligist from the Mayo Clinic]. I met an Osteopath[ they are M.D.'s first] and he suggested a treatment called prolotherapy, where an irritant is injected on either side on the spine[not into the spinal canal, of course]. There is a huge ligament bundle holding the spine and pelvis together , and the irritant causes collogen to be produced by the body and firm up the bundle. My dad checked it out and told me to try it and it's been nothing short of a miracle going on 10 years now.A friend of mine's wife was totally cured.Only one osteopath was certified in Ct. to do this procedure[ he's the physician for the women's pro basketball team in Hartford] so you'll have to check it out.Hope this helps. Billy
 

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Pappy said:
Warren said:
Well, more back problems... :cry:

I pushed my riding a bit, did some yard work and I'm one hurting puppy...

Got a 30-60 day suspension from the Doc not to ride and take it easy.

Maybe I ought to sell after all and get that Ford Model A I've always wanted... :cry:

I'm depressed my friends.
Warren,

I'm in much the same boat AND lost my job of 20 years. This and I lost my daughter AND my Mom in just a 2 week period. So, I don't have an answer yet, but working on it! When your body just aches and aches, when your heart does the same, it just ain't fun! I sit here, up all night again (4AM right now here), and I KNOW what you mean. I will let you know when I come up with a way to cheer up! There has to be a way, HAS to be.....Mike in Oceanside.
Sorry for your loses Mike. I've had a bad back since I was 22-weightlifting injury. I've tried all the therapys and seen the best doctors[ my dad was a radioligist from the Mayo Clinic]. I met an Osteopath[ they are M.D.'s first] and he suggested a treatment called prolotherapy, where an irritant is injected on either side on the spine[not into the spinal canal, of course]. There is a huge ligament bundle holding the spine and pelvis together , and the irritant causes collogen to be produced by the body and firm up the bundle. My dad checked it out and told me to try it and it's been nothing short of a miracle going on 10 years now.A friend of mine's wife was totally cured.Only one osteopath was certified in Ct. to do this procedure[ he's the physician for the women's pro basketball team in Hartford] so you'll have to check it out.Hope this helps. Billy
Thanks Billy. I've decided that Warren and I are just gonna be fine. We're just old and gettin tired is all. Oh wait.....maybe it was my wife who said that? :?
 

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Warren said:
Well, more back problems...
For what it's worth, my brother-in-law is 6'8" and thin, and working in construction for many years had chronic back problems. He tried many things to fix the constant pain, to no avail, until he found the miracle cure: water! He started drinking a lot of water every day and bingo! No more back pain. I don't understand it and not sure he does, but he was miserable for many years until the water and now he has no problems at all. Sounds crazy, but it was just that simple for him.
 

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I got written up at work recently and it could turn into a big problem in the future if I try too hard again...

So, I'm listening (on Amphony wireless phones) to a 1987 tape of
Live 105 that I made in San Francisco when I lived there and listened to Steve Masters and Rick mixes.

"another brick is falling from the isle of view ."

Anyone want a KSTM Apache Junction 1984 new years day tape?

These were my better days.
 
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