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Hi, My name is Dave Marquez. I live in Tacoma Wa. I really am smitten by both the 400 and 650, however, I have a 35inch inseam. Will the seat/backrest allow me to ride comfortably, or are there mods possible to improve legroom?
I have been out of motorcycling for quite awhile, and I am planning to buy a foot forward scooter/bike in 2004
have a great holiday season!
Dave
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Hey Dave welcome to the Board. I think you should look at the 650 as I believe it offers just a touch more leg room over the 400. I myself have a long 34" seam and have no problems what soever on the 650. I have the backrest as far back as it can adjust. Oh and one other thing .....I'll trade your rain for my snow :D
hey Tall man

Dave- i'm 6'2" but 32 inch inseam. I have a Burgman 650 and love it. But, I would like a bit more legroom. I've read about many people removing the small backrest to obtain a bit more seat length and thus more legroom. I may give that a try. I'm also about to purchase a backrest to provide more back support - http://www.utpr.com/burgman.html

Hope that helps a bit. Oh, and you may need a taller windshield as well. You will likely get buffeted around a bit without one at your height. Clearview is coming out with a XL tall shield in January so they say. Again, I hope to obtain one at that time.

Happy Holidays everyone.
The Burgman has leg stretch room on the floorboards.
There are no pedals to mess with.
Well, Dave, it's been six months since your first post. Did you get a scooter?

I'm a new 650 owner from Everett (although I usually say Seattle, because no one outside Puget Sound seems to know where Everett is).

I'm 6' 5" with a 36 inch inseam. My knees were brushing the glove box even with the backrest all the way back, so I just removed it. All it took was removing two small retaining screws and it slid right out. MUCH more comfortable now. For Christmas I may treat myself to the Corbin custom Burgman seat. Real leather, longer, softer...but $$$.

Anyway, let us know how you're doing if you read this.
Brian said:
For Christmas I may treat myself to the Corbin custom Burgman seat. Real leather, longer, softer...but $$$.
Almost... It won't be softer... Corbin takes a different approach. They use a very firm foam. The seat feels rock hard when you first sit on it. But they are very comfortable to ride on. And they stay comfortable during long mileage days. I can't explain why that works, but after owning 3 Corbin seats I know that it does. However, anyone who thinks softer = more comfortable, will freak out when they first sit down on a Corbin.
pauljo said:
Almost... It won't be softer... Corbin takes a different approach. They use a very firm foam. The seat feels rock hard when you first sit on it. ...anyone who thinks softer = more comfortable, will freak out when they first sit down on a Corbin.
The Corbin seats' firm foam "breaks down" with use, conforming to the shape of the rider, so after a brief break-in period you end up with more surface contact than you would with most other seats. That's what accounts for the comfort, along with a refined shape in the seat pan.

However I'm going to get a "custom" custom seat if they'll do it, using a layer of thermoelastic memory foam on top of the firm foam. I had a custom massage table made for me by Oakworks using a multilayer, multidensity setup, and I liked it so well that that's what I'd like to have in a seat.
Brian said:
The Corbin seats' firm foam "breaks down" with use, conforming to the shape of the rider, so after a brief break-in period you end up with more surface contact than you would with most other seats. That's what accounts for the comfort, along with a refined shape in the seat pan.
Corbin states that the break-in period is about 1000 miles of riding. For some folks, that is less than a month - for others longer. But I really haven't noticed a drastic difference with break-in. I've had the Corbin on my V-Strom for about 5000 miles now. I actually find that the seats work well for me right from day one. Another characteristic that makes them work better is that they are wider than stock seats, so they support your whole butt. The Burgman 650 is probably an exception, because it has the widest factory stock seat in the universe... particularly in the passenger area.

I got two seats with my last motorcycle - a slightly used 1995 Kawasaki Concours. One was a Corbin. The other was a modification of the stock seat by Sargent - with imbedded gel pads and some other foam modifications. It was a much softer cushier seat than the Corbin. But after riding some on each of them, my wife (passenger) and I both agreed that the Corbin was more comfortable. For the next 55,000 miles, the Corbin never came off of the bike. The prior owner prefered the Sargent seat. After about a year of riding the cruiser bike that he traded the Concours in on - he went and bought another new Concours. I sold the Sargent seat back to him.

There are companies like Sargent that will do just about anything you want with your seat. The drawback is that you have to ship your seat to them, and wait for a few weeks until they get it done and ship it back to you. (Corbin is the only seat maker I know of that manufactures its own seat pans.)

http://www.sargentcycle.com/default2.html
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