Lean Angle
Don't know for sure about the 650, but my 400 will lean further than I am comfortable. :lol:
Don't know for sure about the 650, but my 400 will lean further than I am comfortable. :lol:
How aggressive can you lean one of these?
Ive only got 400 miles on my Burg and the more I drive it the more comfortable I feel. Im leaning further and further with it. How far has anyone got theirs to lean? I know its not a crotch rocket, but it seems to carve the turns pretty nicely.
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Not far enough
I've got scrapes from leaning too far on both sides of my 400 - plastic as well as the center stand.
Guess I should have got a GSXR-1000. :mrgreen:
I've got scrapes from leaning too far on both sides of my 400 - plastic as well as the center stand.
Guess I should have got a GSXR-1000. :mrgreen:How far can you lean?
I think it depends on whether you have power on or off. Braking or power off in a turn will push the bike down on the suspension. Power on going into a turn will lift the suspension and give you more clearance. Biggest thrill I've had so far is coming down off a very high bridge crossing over a river. We took a 270 degree exit at the bottom of the hill which went back under the bridge. I had slowed and entered the ramp at about 40mph. I looked ahead and saw that it was good clean road and I cranked it and leaned it over and passed my co-riders. I was honestly waiting for it to scrape I had so fare over but in never touched. I beleive this was because I had power on which raised suspension and that is why it never touched. I can tell you this much it really impressed my Yamaha 1100 co-riders.
I think it depends on whether you have power on or off. Braking or power off in a turn will push the bike down on the suspension. Power on going into a turn will lift the suspension and give you more clearance. Biggest thrill I've had so far is coming down off a very high bridge crossing over a river. We took a 270 degree exit at the bottom of the hill which went back under the bridge. I had slowed and entered the ramp at about 40mph. I looked ahead and saw that it was good clean road and I cranked it and leaned it over and passed my co-riders. I was honestly waiting for it to scrape I had so fare over but in never touched. I beleive this was because I had power on which raised suspension and that is why it never touched. I can tell you this much it really impressed my Yamaha 1100 co-riders.
I too am wondering whether you'll be scraping plastic/metal on the Burgman 650, before you get rid of the chicken strips.
On my CBR600F4i, I would scrap knee pucks and pegs (with the peg feelers removed), before I would get to the very edge of the tires with 1mm left of chicken strips.
I wonder if Suzuki will officially release the cornering clearance on the Burgman 650. Yamaha-motor.com stated the cornering clearance for their new 2004 R1 at 56°.
Check out this video of a smaller cc scooter with not too much cornering clearance.
http://www.ecf.utoronto.ca/~auyeun/taxi.wmv
On my CBR600F4i, I would scrap knee pucks and pegs (with the peg feelers removed), before I would get to the very edge of the tires with 1mm left of chicken strips.
I wonder if Suzuki will officially release the cornering clearance on the Burgman 650. Yamaha-motor.com stated the cornering clearance for their new 2004 R1 at 56°.
Check out this video of a smaller cc scooter with not too much cornering clearance.
http://www.ecf.utoronto.ca/~auyeun/taxi.wmv
Re: How far can you lean?
Oh, it was definitely with power on. I was stopped at a light, waiting to turn right. A Ford Taurus (non-SHO) was in the other right-turn lane, next to me. I wanted to beat the Taurus through the intersection, becasue the road we were turning onto was merging into one lane. I took the wide lane, he took the narrow one. He easily beat me through the intersection due to his car's superior cornering ability.
Oh, it was definitely with power on. I was stopped at a light, waiting to turn right. A Ford Taurus (non-SHO) was in the other right-turn lane, next to me. I wanted to beat the Taurus through the intersection, becasue the road we were turning onto was merging into one lane. I took the wide lane, he took the narrow one. He easily beat me through the intersection due to his car's superior cornering ability.
Peter T. said:I think it depends on whether you have power on or off.
Check out the images from this website. There is one where it looks like the rider is almost scraping plastic/metal.
http://www.moto-station.com/mig.php?pageType=folder&currDir=./Motos/Route/Suzuki 650 Burgman
http://www.moto-station.com/mig.php?pageType=folder&currDir=./Motos/Route/Suzuki 650 Burgman
check out headlights
Check out the headlights in the picture posted by migz123. The headlights are not on. It appears that there are two DRL lights in the upper outside corner of each lamp. I have seen this picture before but never noticed the headlights. This must be a Japanese model for the homeland. European promo pictures down show this type of headlight.
Check out the headlights in the picture posted by migz123. The headlights are not on. It appears that there are two DRL lights in the upper outside corner of each lamp. I have seen this picture before but never noticed the headlights. This must be a Japanese model for the homeland. European promo pictures down show this type of headlight.
Hi Peter - yes I did notice that, looks very cool!
Thanks for pointing that out, I hadnt noticed. Upon inspection of my Burgy that area above the top corner of the headlight is empty.
If this is a Japanese model I wonder if they use them as daytime running lights ,where we in North America are required to have the headlights on?
I also wonder if a fog light or something could be installed there?
If this is a Japanese model I wonder if they use them as daytime running lights ,where we in North America are required to have the headlights on?
I also wonder if a fog light or something could be installed there?
Re: check out headlights
Or it could be a US-spec 650 with the typical burned-out headlights. :wink: I don't know about the 650's, but the 2003 400's are notorious for going through headlight bulbs.
Or it could be a US-spec 650 with the typical burned-out headlights. :wink: I don't know about the 650's, but the 2003 400's are notorious for going through headlight bulbs.
Peter T. said:Check out the headlights in the picture posted by migz123. The headlights are not on. It appears that there are two DRL lights in the upper outside corner of each lamp. I have seen this picture before but never noticed the headlights. This must be a Japanese model for the homeland. European promo pictures down show this type of headlight.
Those are some serious scrapes there Migz. I'm wondering how soft the suspension was and were they obtained riding 2 up or solo?
... not sure, I just found the pics on the net...allwalk said:Those are some serious scrapes there Migz. I'm wondering how soft the suspension was and were they obtained riding 2 up or solo?
Serious scraping in corners
On the road, you have to be going pretty hard to scrape the 650, but it is possible.
On the track, it runs out of ground clearance pretty quickly, even with the rear suspension wound up all the way to the hardest.
Racing at Le Mans in the Moto Tour de France last October, I had my Burger sideways several times as it grounded out - there's less lean on the left because the sidestand support grounds and digs in hard.
On the right, I have worn right through the bodywork just below the right footboard after serious scraping at two further circuits, Issoire and Ales.
I was impressed with the Burger's stability, but wished it weighed a lot less!
PNB
On the road, you have to be going pretty hard to scrape the 650, but it is possible.
On the track, it runs out of ground clearance pretty quickly, even with the rear suspension wound up all the way to the hardest.
Racing at Le Mans in the Moto Tour de France last October, I had my Burger sideways several times as it grounded out - there's less lean on the left because the sidestand support grounds and digs in hard.
On the right, I have worn right through the bodywork just below the right footboard after serious scraping at two further circuits, Issoire and Ales.
I was impressed with the Burger's stability, but wished it weighed a lot less!
PNB
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