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Does the asphalt look new? Like it was just topped off? Is it raining? If so, you are riding on something akin to ice! Slow down and give it some respect or it will take you down. Don't ask me how I know. :mad:
 

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As a commuter I tend to ride the same route every day. One day, back when I was riding a Suzuki Boulevard, at a right turn that I had taken hundreds of times at 30-40mph, they had removed the asphalt during the day and replaced it with about 4 inches of gravel. Got my first and only taste of flat track racing on that 50 ft stretch of infrastructure improvement.

Things change all the time. Can't be too vigilant.
 
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If the road is covered in white - don't ride on it - don't ask how I know that!

Just today I had a new road surface experience - TAR. Not sure if the repair is new or not but it was very hot today and the tar on the road at that corner made me have to do a quick correct to prevent going down. I did not find any tar on my tire/fender when I got home so I think it was not new but just soft from the heat.
 

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Not sure if you mean the road has snow (white), sand, or gravel dust all nasty stuff when they get wet.

Where I live in Ohio some roads seam to bubble up tar to the point the whole thing for a mile or two is like that. Also the new patch stuff they are using here is quite slippery and squishy. But the most dangerous thing I have ever found is panted surfaces especially if it gets wet.

I always ride like I am going down the road for the first time because you just never know.
 

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Not sure if you mean the road has snow (white), sand, or gravel dust all nasty stuff when they get wet.
Just to be clear, I am referring to a newly resurfaced asphalt parking lot. They basically paint it with thick sticky oil. The combination of that and a steady mist that hung around all day brought the slick up to the surface with no washing away effect. The back (where I park) wasn't done yet. With plenty of traction and a very low rate of speed I turned on to the new stuff. Almost immediately the rear wheel calmly decided to come out from behind. It continued to do so until I was facing the direction I had just come from. No problem Right? I mean I was practically stopped but the little bit of 'Traction Jerk' at the end caused me to lose the bike. I fell to the right on my hip and elbow. When I got to my feet I realized that even with my very grippy shoes I had maybe 10 pct traction. Just a hair off of black ice. It wasn't something that I was looking for in terms of a hazard but the deadly combination of oil rising to the surface and not being washed away even though it was wet all day (just not enough water) eluded my safety antennae. I failed to put two and two together. I totaled the full cost of repair to the Burger at over $1000. :serious
 

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Ahhh SRS (Soapy Road Symptom) as I call it. It looks something like soapy water on the surface.

Glad you are OK and that sucks about the bike. Have you talked to the owner of the parking lot to see if they will help you with the damages?

Just to be clear, I am referring to a newly resurfaced asphalt parking lot. They basically paint it with thick sticky oil. The combination of that and a steady mist that hung around all day brought the slick up to the surface with no washing away effect. The back (where I park) wasn't done yet. With plenty of traction and a very low rate of speed I turned on to the new stuff. Almost immediately the rear wheel calmly decided to come out from behind. It continued to do so until I was facing the direction I had just come from. No problem Right? I mean I was practically stopped but the little bit of 'Traction Jerk' at the end caused me to lose the bike. I fell to the right on my hip and elbow. When I got to my feet I realized that even with my very grippy shoes I had maybe 10 pct traction. Just a hair off of black ice. It wasn't something that I was looking for in terms of a hazard but the deadly combination of oil rising to the surface and not being washed away even though it was wet all day (just not enough water) eluded my safety antennae. I failed to put two and two together. I totaled the full cost of repair to the Burger at over $1000. :serious
 

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I was pretty hot when I bumped into my lawyer and mentioned it. He laughed at me. That let some of the steam out. Sometimes ya' just gotta suck it up.
 

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Well out here in CA most everything has that black madness. Freeways here are more the concrete but around town....

Sucks!
When it rains bad here it breaks up. When there is a path construction trucks drive down everyday it breaks up fast. When its hot the oils come to the surface and poof slippery.

When it is new:
Looks great, super smooth and I can see the striping.
 
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