yippee, hooray, yahoo........ .......thats my reaction after getting back from a 75mi. ride today in 45 deg weather in wisconsin , but I couldn't wait to try out my Gen-mar mfg. 1" up and 1 3/8" back risers. They totally elimanated my shoulder and upper back fatique from stretching to reach the handlebars, especially since I added my utopia backrest and highway pegs which allowed me to relax back even further[see gallery-enter highway pegs in search] You will notice in one of the pictures in the normal riding position my arms are almost fully extended. Now with my heels up on the pegs and relaxed back into the backrest my arms are still bent into not quite a 90 degree angle [sorry no picture] my inseam is 30' and arm length is 32". height 5'-8". As far as install on my '03 400 Burgman it was about a 25 minute job and most of that time was in trying to get the nylon tie strap attached just under the dash area loose that holds the handlebar electrical wires just a little too tight. You can dislodge the plastic pin part of the strap from its hole from underneath the frt wheel with a long screw driver then it allows more than enough slack in the electrical lines and still doesn't let them rub anywhere that they not supposed too. You don't have to take anything off other than the handlebar covers. all the other brake lines. throttle cables had more than enough slack to allow left to right turns to the stops without any problems.From the drivers view everything looks stock, but from the side the plastic covers are up about 2' leaving a gap that allows you to see the hoses, wires etc . I think that issue could easily be fixed with foam or something. Its a small price to pay for the added comfort I've gained. I believe Cockrell is in the process of trying these on his 650 and has already reported on the success of the 1" up style. They cost me 116.00 with shipping but well worth it to me ,especially since I no longer have my shop to fabricate my own . just fyi. thanks eyes5002