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OK this may not be a new topic but I did not find enough yet. About to remove the 2004 OEMs with 2,000 miles (they are weak new) and need to buy.

Hagon, Ikon, Fournale, Ohins in that order of ascending quality and price, per the forum. Any are better. I believe. OK take the first two which are low enough $ not to hurt.

C'mon, Girling vs Koni. Norton Commando vs. MV Agusta. Triumph vs Ducati. BSA vs. Benelli. Will I be able to notice on the hagon that it is lacking, will the Ikon be superior? Who has tried both on the Burgman 650?

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being in boston, I'd look for adaptability to snow chains as a major consideration :lol:
 

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I have used both Hagon and Ikon dampers on many different motorcycles. The difference is small and probably not noticable to the average rider .

No experience with Fornales ,
Ohlins are top of the line stuff and you will pay for them , but they are more adjustable and can be rebuilt . You can also get them with springs matched to your weight and riding style.

You might try a guy here in NC. that comes highly recommended from friend of mine, his company is "Cogent Dynamics"
He is the guy i plan to see when i get ready to replace my suspension front and rear.

If you talk with him , please let us know what he has available for Burgmans and the cost involved. :thumbup:
 

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If you overload the scooter 100% all the time, the Hagons will be fine.

If you don't, a couple of iron rods will work the same as the Hagons
 

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I've had iKons on an two Burgmans now and am pretty satisfied. Had to rebuild at 20k miles due to leaks, but iKon USA help was super (tool rental, advice, reasonable parts). Olin's require a factory rebuild.
 

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Ordered Hagons from Dave Quinn in Connecticut this morning. He walked down and grabbed the scooter unit and compared to a shock for 1978 Honda CB750 for me after I explained what people on this site do with those. Looks like same unit but is not. The honda has shorter stroke, by about an inch.

Will advise in a few weeks how much better than OEM it is.

Dave says the honda springs look like they would fit, so some swapping of springs could be done although Hagon itself seems to say no to that. Hagon uses 100 lbs spring for the scooter.
 

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I would love to visit the factory. Picturing 80 year old cast iron belt driven machinery, painted green, dirty concrete building. Or, clean room automated place. Either way, I would want to visit.
 

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Well.....anyone who relied to the OP must have know what the hell he was talking about because I had no idea and thought that the whole posting was just a big joke.!!!!! :?: :?
 

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I was told that 30 years ago, Girling machinery was sold off to Hagon, and Koni equipment was sold off to Ikon. Hence, brit vs italian comparison
 

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ErikDK said:
Koni is a Dutch company (from Holland)
.... and Ikon is a small Australian one based around 300km from where I live. I run Ikons on the back of my '08 Burgman, but frankly there is very little difference compared with the standard ones which I swapped over to my '03 Burgman.
 

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Put the Hagons on this morning, surprisingly easy. 14mm long socket and shorty ratchet. Reach up inside fender, no problem.

They definitely feel better than my low-mile OEMs. Still a bumpy riding scooter but the rear is calmer than before.

Now getting up courage to take the forks apart.
 

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Please let us know how the fork upgrade goes, and what you used.
I plan to significantly improve my Burgman's suspension this year . Just not sure which products i will use yet.
 
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