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Receive e-mail reply below from customer service at Dave Quinn Motorcycles locate in Connecticut for replace rear suspension in future, price very very affordable.
Web site say Dave Quinn Motorcycles import, sell, service, Hagon product for 25 year now. They have very much knowledge of shock and Hagon shock product.

244.00 $ for 2 shock + 2 standard or if prefer more heavy capacity spring.

http://www.davequinnmotorcycles.com/


Hope this help BUSA friend:

Hagon #36501 shocks for the 650 Burgman
are in stock, can ship today.

Hagons stock build for this application has 18kg/100lb springs, designed for a loading range of about 180 to 350lbs.

We're happy to fit a 10% stiffer spring (20kg/110lb) but that is as stiff as we can go on these application-specific damping bodies. This would give you maximum loading of about 385 to 390lbs.

Type M shocks feature adjustable special "multi rate"
progressive action springs, long stroke and wide-viscosity index oil for use in all temperatures. They are not adjustable for damping, have three position spring preload adjuster and are not rebuildable. Supplied in complete pairs with spring adjuster spanner $244 a pair, shipping not included.

All Hagon shocks have a two year unlimited mileage warranty against failure due to manufacturing defect. Bent shocks due to accident, impact, dropped bike, improper installation or adjustment, or owner malfunction will not be warranted. Neither we nor Hagon warranty shocks for racing applications.

http://www.davequinnmotorcycles.com/

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Interesting.

Hagon UK said they only offer one type of spring for the Burgman and that unfortunately the shocks are not compatible with their shrouds, due to different spring diameter.

I've bought the shocks new from motorcycle recyclefor £135 + £26 PP and expect them next week. Hagon themselves were slow to answer and want £156 and £20 PP.

I sure hope they are not to stiff.
 

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The shocks arrived today. They look like any old plain Hagon shock, except for a number of spacers between the adjuster and the spring, maybe because a full length spring would be to soft.
I'm pretty sure the standard shrouds would fit, contrary to what Hagon stated. They just don't want to fiddle with more types.
 

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Have you take picture of shock you receive ?
 

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Can you give me a couple of measurements? Looking for the length eyelet center to lower mounting hole center compressed (might require removing the spring) and extended length. Thanks. I'm curious how the travel compares to the stock ones, its a bit confusing on Hagon's site.
 

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Comparison OEM vs Hagon:
[attachment=1:mlh1sg8a]IMG_0314.jpg[/attachment:mlh1sg8a]

The 30.000 km OEM has very little damping in the first 2 cm of its stroke and the spring is quite soft, whereas the Hagon is tauter and with much more damping.

The first one went on without problems, but when I unwrapped the second:
[attachment=0:mlh1sg8a]IMG_0315.jpg[/attachment:mlh1sg8a]

Bummer.

The OEM shock bushing is concave and doesn't fit the Hagon's smaller, cylindrical hole, so now the OEM's are back on.
 

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Yikes !!!!! Much work for nothing.
 

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InfernoST said:
Let us know if they are better than the stock units.

DITTO !
 

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The seller quickly sent me 2 bushings, so the shocks are mounted now.
They are stiff as predicted for my 70-something kg's geared up and 10kg in the trunk.

Damping is good, but a few more windings on the springs in stead of the spacers would be good for my weight. (More windings = softer spring)
 

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Would like purchase a pair in USA, what you think they weight and can me carry pair under seat and not break storage compartment ?

How they work react when use on road ?
 

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They weigh approx. 5 kg, and I can't imagine any problems carrying them under the seat.

They give a confident and well damped feel, but they're clearly to stiff for my weight.

For those weighing 90 kg upwards + luggage and pillion, they are a cheap remedy.

I will try if the original Suzuki springs can be fitted to the Hagons. They seem to be longer, so the resulting raise in spring rate from shortening might just do the trick.
 

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ErikDK said:
They give a confident and well damped feel, but they're clearly to stiff for my weight.

For those weighing 90 kg upwards + luggage and pillion, they are a cheap remedy.

I will try if the original Suzuki springs can be fitted to the Hagons. They seem to be longer, so the resulting raise in spring rate from shortening might just do the trick.

Monsieur ErikDK, have you put more kilometer now, do you have update on the Hagon shock and spring.
 

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It's way to stiff for my weight. Quite stupid of Hagon only to offer a spring good for two-up or overweight riders.

It feels more planted, but comfort is sadly lacking.
 

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ErikDK said:
It's way to stiff for my weight. Quite stupid of Hagon only to offer a spring good for two-up or overweight riders.

It feels more planted, but comfort is sadly lacking.
Will Hagon exchange for lighter spring or sell to you lighter spring ?
 

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Hagon UK say they only have the spring they come with, and can't supply any other spring, and the shocks generally aren't compatible with their other shocks.

The US Hagon agent offers 3 different springs - :evil:
 

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ErikDK said:
Hagon UK say they only have the spring they come with, and can't supply any other spring, and the shocks generally aren't compatible with their other shocks.

The US Hagon agent offers 3 different springs - :evil:
Is this the Hagon #36501 model for Burgman 650 ?

Do not know about 3 different spring, but USA importer did offer a little more capacity spring (10% approx.) for same price.

If you remove some spacer (if possible) will this not make spring softer as it be compress less ?
 

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Chérie said:
If you remove some spacer (if possible) will this not make spring softer as it be compress less ?
If the spring doesn't compress with him on the bike then it might change, if not the spacer will only change the ride height.
 

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ErikDK mention approx. 80 kg / 175 lb weight, would be very interesting know how the Hagon handle with additional 50-60 kg / 120-130 plus lb sitting on rear of bike.
 
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