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Has anyone bought a car through these currently available "discounts?" I am thinking about it. Some supposedly "expire" August 1st. I think that it's BS unless you have a 980 credit score. But, I dunno. I think I want to get a new roller-skate. I look at all "incentives" with a jaundiced eye.

Speaking of which - what do you ppl think is the best smallest least expensive car out there offered by the "big three?" Ford Focus? Chevy Aveo or Colbalt? Plymouth/Dodge Neon? Pontiac Vibe? I think the 3dr Focus is nice and I think the hatch 5dr Aveo is cute (I used to have a new Chevy Sprint (Geo Metro) and I thought it was great.)

I know there's tons of inexpensive Kias and Hyundais also but I am thinking of these "employee price" things going on...(plus I had a Hyundai Sonata and it was the biggest toilet I ever owned.. :evil: ) I am not going to trade-in.

Any advice? I think my score is around 690. :oops:
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credit score only has to do with the interest rate you get. Billy gets special flyers sent to him about getting a GM vehicle for employee pricing about twice a year. SOME models have a better deal than others. I test drove the Vibe and it was ok. Had room to haul stuff but I ended up with a Mazda Tribute back in March. The Cobalt looks like a Kia Rio to me. I'd test drive and get all the detailed information before I had them run my credit. I had a 96 Cavalier and it was a great little car. I wish I never would have traded it off, but it was too small. Also the Pontiac Sunfire I had was nice too.

Good luck with your choice. Just test drive and test drive but before the 1st of Aug! :wink:
 

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Yup - your right about the interest rate vs the score but i am just thinking that they may manipulate that relationship with this kind of "incentive" thing being thrown around... if ya know what I mean.

I hate it when I am thinking about this sort of thing. I call it "duka" which in my world stand for "want" and there is definitely a difference between that and "need." sigh. :roll: It gets waaay more philisophical than that but...thats duka in a nutshell.

Duka sux!
 

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My wife is a Hughs retiree & we have gotten the GM discount (They own Hughs) for quite a long time. We have bought several cars using it
but we now own two Hyundais & are quite satisfied with them. That
free guarentee is hard to beat.
 

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A truck or sport ute is going to get you about $5K off. A car about $2500.00 . On a Duramax diesel, my friend just gor 12K off! The more is costs, the bigger profit/discount. It IS for real.
 

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Pete said:
Speaking of which - what do you ppl think is the best smallest least expensive car out there offered by the "big three?" Ford Focus? Chevy Aveo or Colbalt? Plymouth/Dodge Neon? Pontiac Vibe? I think the 3dr Focus is nice and I think the hatch 5dr Aveo is cute (I used to have a new Chevy Sprint (Geo Metro) and I thought it was great.)

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Ford Focus not too bad, due for a major redo very soon.
Neon = more disposable than most but fun to drive
Vibe = rebadged Toyota Matrix. If you believe in the Toyota hype it's for you.
Aveo = Suzuki Swift
Cobalt = Chevy's latest Korean manufacturer venture, I can't remember the name, but the company went under for what ever reason and GM snapped it up and is now marketing the vehicles. I wouldn't buy one for a couple of years just to see how they stand up.

For what it's worth, Hyundai is quality with a capital Q but Kia who is owned by Hyundai has quite a few quality issues.

In my mind probably the Aveo is the best buy of the bunch. And hey, it's already got a cousin in your driveway!
 

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I have been purchasing vehicles thru the Ford employee plan for about 20 years. My father in law worked at the St.Paul assembly plant.
Anyway, at Ford it's called the "A Plan" for active employees, or the "Z Plan" for retirees. Same price just a different administration on Ford's end.
For any vehicle ask to see the invoice. The A and Z plan will be listed on the invoice along with the so called invoice price. Usually, the employee price is a few percentage points under invoice.

This is how Ford works. No idea about the other's like GM, Chrysler, etc..
 

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For what it's worth, Hyundai is quality with a capital Q but Kia who is owned by Hyundai has quite a few quality issues.

In my mind probably the Aveo is the best buy of the bunch. And hey, it's already got a cousin in your driveway!
Having owned 5 Hyundai's and running a board for Hyundai owners I'm a little Biased. But dollar for dollar the Elantra can't be touched. If you look at the standard features that come on it, and the great warrenty, you can't do any better.

If you look at a base model cobalt - even with the "employee price" your looking at $13000 for a car that doesn't have power windows, side air bags, or heated mirrors that all come standard on the Elantra. Base Elantras can be had for under 11k.

And by the way, the Aveo is not a Suzuki product, it is made by Daiwoo. Daiwoo was bought out by GM after they went belly up.

Even going with the Aveo, your looking at 12K to get all the features you would get on an Elantra, and you would be loosing 30hp on top of that.
 

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From what Autoline Detroit said, the prices arent' any better now than they would have normally been BUT

-It's a "FLAT PRICE" so no negotiation.

-It's another gimmick to get folks into the showroom.

I currently own a Ford Ranger. I bought it in 02 for 8495 plus tax.

Last year, the same dealer was selling them for the same price.

This year, I called them up and the "Employee discount price" was over 12K.

So my observation is that the price really isnt' any better, but 12,000 is still a better price than your "average" joe would normally get, I guess.
 

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Rubble said:
For what it's worth, Hyundai is quality with a capital Q but Kia who is owned by Hyundai has quite a few quality issues.

In my mind probably the Aveo is the best buy of the bunch. And hey, it's already got a cousin in your driveway!
And by the way, the Aveo is not a Suzuki product, it is made by Daiwoo. Daiwoo was bought out by GM after they went belly up.
I stand corrected on the Daewoo stuff. This got really confusing as I started to look into it so below is a quote from the Canadian Driver web site that explains the whole GM/Daewoo/Suzuki relationship.

(snipped) GM's solution was to buy a controlling interest in the assets of Korean automaker, Daewoo - now renamed GM Daewoo Auto and Technology Company (GMDAT) - and build lower-priced cars in Korea for the world market. The first three cars from this new venture are sold under different names, depending on where you are. In Canada, they're badged as Chevrolets - the Aveo, Optra and Epica. As well, the Aveo will be offered as the Suzuki Swift+, and the Epica will be sold as the Suzuki Verona. In the United States, Chevrolet will get the Aveo, but not the Optra and Epica. However, the Optra and Epica will be sold in the U.S. as the Suzuki Firenza and Suzuki Verona. In the rest of the world, the three cars will be known as the Daewoo Kalos, Lacetti, and Magnus.

My original thoughs on the Aveo may now be discarded. I thought it was a 'Suzuki' Chevrolet. Now that I see it is a 'Daewoo' Chevrolet and Suzuki is selling a 'Daewoo' Suzuki it might be best to stick with a Hyundai. Or perhaps one of my favorites, the Mazdz 3 Sport.
 

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Rubble said:
If you look at a base model cobalt - even with the "employee price" your looking at $13000 for a car that doesn't have power windows, side air bags, or heated mirrors that all come standard on the Elantra. Base Elantras can be had for under 11k.
I bought my new 2005 Elantra w/auto transmission & air conditioning on June 3rd for just under $10,000 (Total a little over $11,000 w/tax, lic title).
That included rebates & an owner loyalty discount ( 2003 Santa Fe.)
 

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Cobalt = Chevy's latest Korean manufacturer venture, I can't remember the name, but the company went under for what ever reason and GM snapped it up and is now marketing the vehicles. I wouldn't buy one for a couple of years just to see how they stand up.
Cobalts are pureblood Chevy's. They are made in a long-term GM plant in Lordstown, Ohio. I just spent all night inspecting and shipping steel Cobalt parts there, so I oughta know.

For what it's worth, under the skin a Cobalt and a Saturn Ion are for the most part identical. I repack identical parts into racks for the other plant all of the time.
 

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Car choice

For what it's worth, I drive a Vibe and really enjoy it. Plenty of room, fun to drive and so far as reliable as a rock. However, I have had Hyundai before, I can't say anything bad about the cars or the warranty.

The Focus is a nice car, but as already noted is due for a make-over soon.
 

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I've spent too much time working on a Focus SE wagon to buy one. 50K and three brake jobs, wheel bearings, valve cover gasket, struts and shocks, inner tie rod end, outer tie rod end, and more that I can't remember. I talked my mom into it when she kept complaining how much her SUV was drinking. She still loves it, but it would cost her a fortune if she didn't have free labor.

I did an internet search on the car and found nothing but disgruntled customers, many with brake failure at 15,000 miles or less.
 
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