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I watched David's 3 videos and now am 45 min into the install. Would be done within 1 hour, I think, except for this question:

I'm installing a GiVi AF266 in my 2008 Bugman 400.

Regarding the two front screws, GiVi supplies no spacers for them. Yet they do not show that the existing rubber grommets should go through those two forward holes (one on each side.)

What is the preferred way to deal with that?

It seems to me that
1) there should be a spacer between the windshield and the frame to equal the thickness of the added bracket, and
2) there should be a 'bushing" to fill out the hole, just like there are on the four holes which secure the brackets.

Or do I need to go back to zero, pull the rubber grommets out, then feed them through the holes and ignore the thickness of the bracket in these two forward holed?

I'd really appreciate comments from someone who has "been there, done that" so I can finish this after dinner.

I have a 110 mile (one way) trip planned for tomorrow, so I'm eager to get this mod completed!!!

Whoops! I can't edit the title, which should, of course, be GiVi.
 

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i think on the uninstall instructions it tells you the front/bottom 2 grommets remain the same, the thickness of the brackets is not a problem as per instructions , I did 2 and had no trouble with either although like you I wondered about stress on the plastic because of the bracket thickness, maybe givi compensated for it somehow
 

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>>Yet they do not show that the existing rubber grommets should go through those two forward holes (one on each side.)<<

Yes, I too noted that when I installed mine, and did NOT put the existing grommets through the holes in question. But even without that everything went together just fine, and is far sturdier than the stock windscreen. It was well worth the investment, as you will see on your maiden voyage with it. :)
 

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I just did my install Saturday morning. Like you, I had a question on the front hole on each side after I had done all of the pre-assembly for the shield at the dining room table. Actually, the directions were pretty piss poor as far as I am concerned!

I had to re-watch David's videos before being able to finish. I will share what I did for what it is worth. It might not be correct but I have put 200 miles on the bike this weekend since the install with no issues.

I used the supplied spacers (4) in the rear 2 holes on each side. I actually removed the front rubber grommets in the frame - this was quite a chore as there is a "bump" in the middle that keeps it seated once the bolts is installed. Anyway, once those were out, I put the "heads" through the holes in the front of the shield to act as a sort of washer/bumper. I then partially installed the bolts (two from the original shield) into the rubber grommet sleeves to make the bits more rigid as David suggested. Once I lined up the two front holes, I just pushed the inserts with screws into the holes then tightened up the bolts which seemed to expand the rubber and make a nice tight connection. I then proceeded to tighten down the new washer/bolt combinations through the rear holes with the spacers inserted. The toughest part for me was getting those front rubber grommet plugs out! Basically, I guess I "ignored the thickness of the bracket" as you said.

Hope this helps some. Sorry it is late - just got back from a 60 mile ride and saw your post.
 

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One solution to AF266 installation on 2008 B 400

Thanks for the input, guys. Isn't interesting that we all were concerned about exactly the same thing!

Dave LikeGolf's videos were a lifesaver. If you're going to do an install, watch them first!!! Thanks, Dave!

Having watched the videos, the directions didn't trouble me --much. Until I hit the two front screws, that is.

I could have done the entire installation, from opening the box to test riding, in one hour had it not been for those two front screws.

The engineer in me just would not let me install the 'shield without some sort of bushing in those holes. This cost me not one but two trips to the hardware store. I did decide I could live with the spacer issue.

They didn't have any proper bushings of any material. Instead, I bought two rubber grommets and cut the "edge" off one side. Cut parallel to the screw, not perpendicular to it, so you, in effect make a thicker bushing.

Then I found out the original screws were too short, so back for two screws.
If you choose to follow my path, get these:

  • 2 Grommet, rubber 3\8" id (that's the diameter of the hole in the windshield, approximately)

  • 2 Screw 5mm x 30mm, course thread (0.8 pitch)
Insert these into the two forward holes.

Tighten things all around, little by little, put the Tupperware back on, and go for a test ride!

I rode less than 10 miles, with half of them at 70 mph, 'shield in highest position. The new 'shield did not flop around. There was still wind, but it wasn't buffeting so was quieter. I guess I thought maybe the wind would "go away!" At least the turbulence won't beat me up. With the original windshield, I think a long trip would have been very uncomfortable due to the turbulence.

Tomorrow I plan to ride it about 225 miles. We'll see how that goes!

Here's a picture of the parts mentioned.

 

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I used the stock grommets and used David's idea of using the bolt to start it. It took a couple of try's and had to use ( like he suggested) a couple of screws in back to help hold the windshield stable in order to keep them from popping out. I did used a little lube to help with all the grommet installs. Silicon grease, just enough to make them slide instead of stick. That was also part of the problem with those front ones popping out, but without it, I couldn't get them in place.
 

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Hello,

I have th AF266 ordered and wish to learn all i can about the install before doing it. You refer to Davids videos. Where are these as I would like to view them. Searched You tube but didn't have correct search information.

Please help.

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Hello,
Thanks for the information. My burgman is a 2013, not 2003. I installed the WS in less than an hour. Everything worked as planned. Needed no additional hardware nor did I have anything left over.

Install was a dream. I have removed the WS from 400s several times in the past and have learned from my mistakes, especially reinstalling and getting the rubber grommet pieces installed properly. Possibly that helped as well as comments from this forum.

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Sorry for digging out such an old topic but I just installed Givi Airflow (works brilliantly !) but... I removed one of the rubber nuts that hold original windshield and lost it inside scooter.:banghead: :banghead::banghead: :(

Is there a possibility to buy one ? If so what is the part number ? For Burgman 400 L2 but I think it is the same for K7 onward. And possibly some other models.
I'm not so keen to take apart all fairings. Not yet...

PS. Givi Airflow is so much better I wonder if Suzuki made ANY wind tunnel tests of original windshield... Probably not.
 

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Borrow my glasses - the guys signature says 2013 Burgman 400!

Riding my Burg 400 K8 at night with the AF266 upper screen fully extended I found that the night mist completely obscured any vision so had to fully lower it, even then needed to wipe the dew from the remainder of the screen.


Jim
 
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