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i am thinking of trading my 400 in on a 650, and wonder what gas mileage it gets
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That will depend on where and how you ride it. I've seen people report averaging anywhere from the mid 30s to the mid 50s.

All the folks I personally know get mileage in the high 40s to low 50s and that is what I get in my normal riding.
 

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That will depend on where and how you ride it. I've seen people report averaging anywhere from the mid 30s to the mid 50s.

All the folks I personally know get mileage in the high 40s to low 50s and that is what I get in my normal riding.
I notice Suzuki advertizes the 650 gets 38 MPG for the 2012 models. I get 50 approximately with my 09 650. What's changed
for it to get that bad.
 

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Back in 09 they advertised 38 mpg for the 2009 models also. They have been advertising that for a long time and folks have been consistently getting better than that. I think what they are giving is the mileage you can expect if all your riding is short distance in city stop and go driving.
 

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I've gotten as bad as around 38 and as good as 52 but on average I get between 40-44 and have on either my '03 or '09. Part of the reason i get lower mileage is due to the additives in the fuel here in So Cal which lower mpg.
 

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thanks for the fast response, i will be taking one for a ride sat morning, and this has made me have some doubts about the wisdom of trading also the different position of the mirrors, my 400 gets around 57-61 mpgs, i like the bike, i am old, so i don't worry too much about wisdom. i just want to trade. is there much difference in the ride? other than more power.
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There is a big difference...I've owned a 400 and last year up graded to a 650 and it was well worth it. I bought my 400 back in 05 and rode it for 6 years. I then sold it last year and bought an 09 650 and wow what a difference in performance, handling, and just a more comfortable ride compared to the 400...so I'm saying you can't go wrong in upgrading to a 650... And gas mileage...when your riding the 650 it really doesnt matter...
 

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I have been monitoring my speed vs RPM to see what sort of MPG I can get in various riding situations. Over a week here is what I have:
3500-4000 about 57-62MPH and showing 45+ on MPG rating on console / 42 on GPS.
4000-4500 about 65-71MPH and showing 42-43MPG on console and 40 on GPS.
by gps I am stopped 4-5 minutes and driving 30minutes at an average in an HOV lane at 56-48

this is on 2011 650.

in grocery store hops about 8-10 mile round trips I am showing the MPG drop to 39 on console and showing about 32 on the GPS.
 

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i go for my test ride this am. and still haven't made up my mind, but am leaning toward purchase of the 650. and hope for the best.
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a difference of 18 miles per gallon really doesn't matter that much. For me, I spend 10 to 14 dollars more every 2 weeks. Small price to pay for all the upgrades a 650 gives you.

I have thought about getting a used Honda Metro 50cc for the 2 miles to work and shorter trips to the store when I am just getting 1 thing.

In the end I decided 1,000.00 for the scooter plus registration, insurance and maintenance costs would buy me a lot more gas than I would save.
 

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I went and done it now! i took the 650 for a test ride and couldn't believe the difference, the first time i goosed it only a little i almost lost it, it reminded me of an over frisky horse. only 50 miles on it but really like it. just one thing i will have to get used to is that is the engine breaking, it is entirely different than the 400, but am sure by the time i get to 100 miles i will have adjusted.
thx for the input.
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Hope you have many miles of enjoyment from it. :thumbup:
 

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erv77 said:
I went and done it now! i took the 650 for a test ride and couldn't believe the difference, the first time i goosed it only a little i almost lost it, it reminded me of an over frisky horse. only 50 miles on it but really like it. just one thing i will have to get used to is that is the engine breaking, it is entirely different than the 400, but am sure by the time i get to 100 miles i will have adjusted.
thx for the input.
erv
2 things.

1st. you will need to change your avitar/sig. from 400 to 650 :lol:

2nd. Throttle/engine braking.
What seems to work the best for me is using the throttle more like a rheostat. Open and close the throttle slowly!
I also found there is very little difference in acceleration if I'm at 1/3 throttle or full throttle.
Increasing the dia. of the grips, by using "Grip Puppies' or something similar, really aids in throttle control, as well as providing a comfortable grip.
 

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i am learning, i don't ride like a drunk man at slow speeds any more, its all in throttle control like you say, on the 400 i would just release the throttle and it would slowly slow down, not so with the 650, i am learning to release the throttle slowly and it works great now i am looking foreword to many happy hours in the saddle. :)
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I have the 08 with 57000 miles. My average mpg hovers around 54-55. I drive like the old man that I am though. Rarely over 60 MPH except on interstate where I run! the speed limit to keep from getting squashed! The only apprehension I have with age and mileage on the 650 is the drive belt. I get a bit nervous taking long trips due to uncertainty about belt life.
 

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I am finding that I get better mileage when I use manual mode on the highways.

Basically anything over 50mph

In auto mode my 650 stays in 5th, so I go into manual and move up into 6th

Also above 60mph the bike goes back and forth between 5th and 6th, but I find in manual mode I can leave it in 6th and it runs smooth and quiet, just loafing along

Lower rpms

Better mileage
 

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i know my mpg will be down for some time until the bike is well broken in, probably 2000 at least.
thx for all the input, the more i ride the better i like it
erv :D
 

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2007 650, 19k miles & I average 45-50mpg at mostly 70-75 mph riding, 1 up.
 

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I would be wary of saying that the 650 is an "upgrade" from the 400.

Some are very sensitive to that comparison.

However, I have never ridden a 400. So I cannot comment in that area. :)

On the 2005 model, I averaged between 40 and 45 MPG (US). Most of the miles were from commuting. My MPG increased, when on longer rides, where I had a lot less stop and go. I was disappointed with the mileage when I spoke with some HD riders who claimed 50 MPG around town. I am not sure if they were exagerating. :shock:
 

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Bet they were :lol: -- Close to 12,000 miles and I have averaged 52.4 MPG.

Bill
 
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