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Funny noise at idle n shut down:

I have wanted a Burgman from the first moment I saw a foto of one a few years back. Just yesterday (Nov. 27, 2oo4) I purchased a used 2oo3 AN650 w/1,2oo miles on it..........

To my horror, when I got it home, with out a helmet on I noticed a knock when the engine is at idle that disappeared above idle speed. I also noticed a sound like the starter motor's bendix spring being released the moment I switch off the ignition.....

It runs n shifts in all modes fine, sounds good/normal (I think) at all but idle speed and the bendix un wind sound at shut down.

Does any one have any thoughts? Candidly after reading the owners manual, I still do not know how to check the oil.....
 

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The "knock" at idle is probably the famous "dieseling noise" that all 650's make. It is not from the engine, but is due to some end play in one of the drivetrain gears. It is normal. There is a "fix" that your dealer can do to quiet it down a bit, but it should not affect the reliability of the machine even if you don't have that done. It only occurs at idle. As soon as you feed power through the gear train the noise stops.

I think mine also makes a funny noise when I shut it off. I always wear a helmet when I ride though - I don't know exactly how to describe it. Motorcycles make mechanical sounds, and you hear them more clearly than you would with a car, because there isn't the same amount of sound deadening material to block them out. Don't let it drive you crazy. Get used to the sounds that your machine makes. Then, if some new strange sound creeps up later on, you may want to investigate it.
 

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Dito to what Pauljo said, just let the sounds go for now you will become old friend with them soon enough.
Do keep a ear open for any real bad noises, but you will know the difference.
If you have not figured out the oil yet, do a search, there is a lot of good information around.
 

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THANKS

Thanks Paul,

I read this diesel noise post but perhaps since I drive a diesel daily, I was not sure this is what they were talking about....... Any who, I feel better knowing this is most likely what I am hearing.

Some time if you have a extra moment, please remove your helmet before you switch off your Burgman and listen for that noise the instant you switch off and beam me back with your opinion....

I took of my engine saddle off tonight and it sure seems to be coming from the starter. Next time I will have one hand on the starter as I switch her off n try to detect a simultaneous vibration. Wonder what this will tell me?????

Thanks again, Glennnnnnnnn

Ps having difficulty adding a foto to my profile. Even read the help paragraph on it. Any hints on adding a foto? I changed the
size to 160x120 but did not check the file size, could this be it????
 

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Glenn said:
Some time if you have a extra moment, please remove your helmet before you switch off your Burgman and listen for that noise the instant you switch off and beam me back with your opinion....

Ps having difficulty adding a foto to my profile. Even read the help paragraph on it. Any hints on adding a foto? I changed the
size to 160x120 but did not check the file size, could this be it????
I'll have to defer to someone else. We are getting our first snowstorm of the season right now. 5 to 8 inches expected by noon tomorrow. Grrrr. The bikes probably won't come out for awhile...

Billmeek might be able to help you with the avitar (picture) problem. He is pretty handy with software issues.
 

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Glenn said:
Ps having difficulty adding a foto to my profile. Even read the help paragraph on it. Any hints on adding a foto? I changed the
size to 160x120 but did not check the file size, could this be it????
The file size is limited to 8 kilobytes. Image dimensions can be up to 160 pixels in height and width. After you select the image in the profile page, be sure to hit the submit button at the bottom. If it's a file size issue, there will be a message at the top of the page in a blue outlined box with the text "The avatar image file size must be less than 8 KB".
 

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Glenn first off congrats on your preloved Burgman. As the others have stated the gear noise at idle ( refered to as diesel noise) is probably what you are hearing. The spring noise now that you mention it is on my machine as well. I've heard it several times but can't honestly say I hear it all the time as my helmet is usually on. I have 20,000kms on my machine with no electrical or mechanical problems in the engine or drive train.

To check your oil put the machine on the centerstand and get down on your kness on the left side. Just behind the kickstand is a sight glass for oil level. I have a few pictures in my album that will assist you in locating the position. Here is just one out of the series. http://burgmanusa.com/gallery/album24/oilchange3_1
 

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Thanks

Thanks boys.

Your foto of the LOWER left tells all. I have saved it to a Burgine maint. folder now.

I think I was able to get a temp. foto loadded under my profile.

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Truly glad to learn ohters are getting the spring un winding sound too. Guess because the Burgie is so quiet U hear stuff like this. My last bike was a 1970 BSA 650 (I still have it) I purchased new when I was in the Army stationed in Germany. It was much more mechanicly noisey than exhaust noisy and I would have never heard a slight noise like the Burgman has just due to the sounds of spinning British steel.......

Again, a big thank you to all. Truly elated to learn my Burgie also has a form full of great guys like U all........
 

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Hey I may have a 400 but I get a big sound as well just at the moment the engine is shot off. Its as if the starter motor is briefly engaged as the motor winds down to below 1,400 rpms. It could be the release mechanism is briefly engaged as the engine winds down and the starter is wound around. I won't worry about it.
 

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Ok Thanks

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This makes me feel a little better. Just hope we all are not spinnning the starter motor gear needlesly n cusing it to fail right after warrentt ends.......

Thanks again thanks for replying, Glennnnnnnn
 

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Cars do this stuff too. When I shut off my '02 Ford Taurus the engine stops, but then it sounds like a turbine is winding down. Weird, consistent, and I have no clue what that noise is. If I let stuff like that bother me, I'd never get any sleep. :?
 

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pauljo said:
Cars do this stuff too. When I shut off my '02 Ford Taurus the engine stops, but then it sounds like a turbine is winding down. Weird, consistent, and I have no clue what that noise is. If I let stuff like that bother me, I'd never get any sleep. :?
I'll bet it's the electric fan on the radiator. I had one that would sometimes kick on after I had turned off the car. First time it happened, I thought my car had a gremlin. :lol:
 

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Yup

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Guess it could also just vary well B your Ford's turbo spooling down... Funny, I drive a turbo diesel Jetta and often when I am in the back hooking up my trailer I here what sounds like a truro suddenly switching on coming out of the tail pipe.

Guess I am just am overly concerned since I purchased my Burgie used....

BUT, just Y day I found out it is still under warrentee till next Oct. 27... :lol:
 

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No turbo - just a plain Jane 24 valve V-6. I don't think it is the radiator fan either, because it does it at all outside temps. But, the bottom line is that I don't care enough about it to go looking for it. Always does it = normal. Heck, if it stopped doing it, I'd probably worry. :wink:
 

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It is not the starter.

If it was the 400 I would say it was the variator rollers dropping back down but as it is a Lardy that is not the case methinks - but it is probably some similar assembly or maybe even the clutch.

I will have to consult a drawing but in the meantime thats my view - :roll:
 

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LC Raney. I have an 03 400, and started to have idle noise. like a loud
clicking sound. Turns out to be the rear drive hub needle bearing worn
bad. I replaced the bearing, $20.00, and fixed it. It's quite now. I have
9,800 miles on it.
 

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pauljo said:
Cars do this stuff too. When I shut off my '02 Ford Taurus the engine stops, but then it sounds like a turbine is winding down. Weird, consistent, and I have no clue what that noise is.
Electric fuel pump maybe?
 
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