That bargain price for Suzuki filter, here Suzuki OEM filter sell $13.95 + taxTwoWheelTim said:My Suzuki dealer only charges $6.99 USD for an OEM filter, no big deal. I buy several. On other forums Fram is referred to as the orange turd. Been junk for years, in my learned opinion.
It would appear you did not read this--it is why I will not use them. On my Miatas, all three, the Fram filters reduced oil gallery pressure by 10 to 20 psi. I first used their "standard" filter and later tried and dissected the "Tough Guard". They are cheaply produced crap, and other than K&N I know of no other filter manufacturer that goes to such great extents to dispel the "myth" of their inferiority...Flywheel said:I've used all sorts of filter/oil combos on past bikes to see if I could notice ANYTHING at all. The only change was cost. Shifting and performance seemed unaffected. So why not give Fram a fair shake too?
I've been running PH6018 filters on the Burg since I purchased it, along with Motomaster oil. The dire predictions have not come to pass.
Modern corporations tend to have PR departments and they use them to market their products. I suspect other brands do the same.
Toolie said:Beware. From the Silverwing site. An owner had his engine size up. During inspecting by shop the Fram oil filter was found to be imploded and blocked oil from the engine.
TwoWheelTim said:Good luck and by all means use what you like, and have had success with. Others and myself are only pointing out what we have seen and experienced. But if you tear apart the filters you will see a difference in workmanship. Crushed media, strings, cardboard end caps, inferior anti drain back valves, poor construction. I personally would rather run an empty can than a F**M. I switched in 1990 when I saw the light and have never looked back.
Quality filters are not expensive, they just have to be found.
Cheers to all.
They also had HUGE clearances and required straight 30 or 50 weight oil. All modern engines are machined with much closer tolarences and require 5W30 to 0W20 oils.QuantumRift said:Early automobile engines did not use oil filters. For this reason, along with the generally low quality of oil available, very frequent oil changes were required. The forerunner to oil filtration was mesh and screen strainers. Same with VW Beetles...they require FREQUENT oil changes if you have not modded your bug to accept an oil filter.