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HEADS-UP ALL 650 DARKSIDERS!!!

THIS IS NOT A SCAM!!! I called them and spoke to them directly.

The Can-AM Spyder's Kenda RS (165/65/14 front tire), Part #706201411, is being sold for $75 (shipped)!!!

The company has a Ebay page up, but order directly for immediate (and priority) FREE shipping anywhere in the U.S.

Mosites Motorsports
12671 Rte 30
North Huntington (Pittsburg), Pa.
1-800-228-5765

Your local Motorsports dealer may match the pricing. Mine (Pete's Cycle of Baltimore, Md.) did.
 

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BTW, if you are thinking/debating about Darksiding, but afraid to try a CT on your bike, or don't want to deal with "justifying" the reason for doing it (right now), this is a solution for you.

The Kenda is a MOTORCYCLE TIRE, made like a CT. (Size #: MC165/65/14 47H KR21, Model #: 706201411).

http://s1058.photobucket.com/user/blackmoon3529/media/Toys/bike/DarkSide Conversion/IMG_0255_zpsea430b93.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

http://s1058.photobucket.com/user/blackmoon3529/media/Toys/bike/DarkSide Conversion/IMG_0254_zps12434966.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1

http://s1058.photobucket.com/user/blackmoon3529/media/Toys/bike/DarkSide Conversion/IMG_0254_zps12434966.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1
 

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Interesting, not-so-fun, fact I just learned... The Kendall tires don't take much pressure. I'll mount it and see how it feels. If it's too sloppy, I should know by tomorrow, and I'll give you all my initial opinion one way or another.
 

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My question, as it's a MC tire does that mean it will not have the sidewall flex of a car tire :?
 

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FWIW, I have a friend using one and he's happy with the way it handles.
 

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Desert Rat,
It IS a MC, BUT it seems that it'll wound up having far MORE FLEX than the Formoza FD1 did. It only has 3 poly plies under the tread and a single ply in the walls. Also, the maximum tire pressure is 30lbs, with an average run rate of around 15-20lbs; a lot less than the 40+ of the Formoza tire and other CTs. We'll see. I'm going to try mounting it in the morning. If it feels and looks good and safe, I may get the guys to run out Ohio with me on Sunday for the re-dedication of the Fallen Riders' Memorial.

Hey Model, what pressure is your friend running? I know I've got to play with it to find what's right for me, but I'm really needing a reference point. Not used to a tire that only requires 15# of pressure.
 

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Black Moon. Not trying to hijack, but I am glad to see you back after a period of hiatus. I enjoy your well thought out and descriptive observations. Keep them coming!
 

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HOGB8 said:
Black Moon. Not trying to hijack, but I am glad to see you back after a period of hiatus. I enjoy your well thought out and descriptive observations. Keep them coming!
Thank you. Had a million issues and no time to get on the internet (okay, really only one or to problems and couldn't get my arse off of the bike!!! :D), but yeppers, I'm back. LOL!!!
 

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One of the places that needs most attention is the drop down area of the rim. I did not grind mine but polished it. May have removed a few .001's" of paint and rough metal. The area from the bead, over the "BUMP" and down the safety ramps is all.Do NOT remove the BUMP. It is a safety feature for a flat tire.

Clean and lube in-between the arrows.

[attachment=0:27r0zqjn]Rim Before.jpg[/attachment:27r0zqjn]
 

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Thanks Dave. When these 50mph wind gusts die down (or the freakin' temps heat up) I'll go out there and pull it.

Something doesn't want me riding today!!! After not listening to that little voice 2wks ago and kissing a retread because of it, I'm inclined not to push my luck. :pain10:
 

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BlackMoon, I won't be able to see my friend until Wednesday. But I will make a point to find out what pressure he is running and post Wed. night. :thumbup:
 

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Hey BM, thanks for the info. I may just try this one when my Pirelli Diablo chews it.



TheBlackMoon said:
HEADS-UP ALL 650 DARKSIDERS!!!

THIS IS NOT A SCAM!!! I called them and spoke to them directly.

The Can-AM Spyder's Kenda RS (165/65/14 front tire), Part #706201411, is being sold for $75 (shipped)!!!

The company has a Ebay page up, but order directly for immediate (and priority) FREE shipping anywhere in the U.S.

Mosites Motorsports
12671 Rte 30
North Huntington (Pittsburg), Pa.
1-800-228-5765

Your local Motorsports dealer may match the pricing. Mine (Pete's Cycle of Baltimore, Md.) did.
 

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QuantumRift said:
Hey BM, thanks for the info. I may just try this one when my Pirelli Diablo chews it.
Hey QR, you may want to read the link he gave. Go to the bottom for his follow up.
 

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TheBlackMoon said:
Well the tire is a wash! The load range (47... aka 332lbs) and the pressure requirements (30psi Max, with Max load at only 15psi) made it, basically, unsafe for my riding style.

Related thread...

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=59356&start=75

<<<SNIP>>>So, let me explain the situation...
The load range (47) and maximum pressure (30lbs) of that Can-Am Kenda RS tire became, more and more, a concern for me, especially after realizing the "Max Load" was measured at only 15lbs of pressure! :scratch: I talked it over with some trike manufacturers/distributors who specialize in Burg 650 trikes and similarly weighted bikes. The general consensus was this... DO NOT CHANCE IT!!! I ride too aggressively, and load too much on the bike (not to mention usually riding 2-up). There was a definite concern that the tire is designed, specifically, for the front of a bike which, not only uses TWO of them to load-balance, but also which will never fully transfer its weight to the front, as it is weighted primarily opposite these tires' installation.

Basically, they're Cheapo Tires that should NEVER be pushed to their limits. /<<<SNIP>>>
 

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Yea Dave, I read it but I don't follow; what does it have to do with the Kenda Spyder tire?

doug
 

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QuantumRift said:
Yea Dave, I read it but I don't follow; what does it have to do with the Kenda Spyder tire?
I read it to be Not Recommended for use, Use at your Own Risk. :shock:
 

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Yea Dave, I read it but I don't follow; what does it have to do with the Kenda Spyder tire?

doug

Doug,

Quick, short, and simple answer...

Let me put it this way...

The Kenda RS Tire is likely to EXPLODE when (not "If"... "WHEN") you HIT the throttle while the bike is loaded down or you have a passenger on the bike.

Like in, literally... EXPLODE!!!

DO NOT BUY THAT TIRE FOR THE BURGMAN 650!!!

For less $$$, just google a source...

(or go to
http://www2.tires-easy.com/cgi-bin/rshop.pl?dsco=135&sowigan=&Breite=165&Quer=60&Felge=14&Speed=&kategorie=6&LoadRange=&Marke=&ranzahl=4&rsmFahrzeugart=PKW&suchen=View+tires)

for the Formoza FD1. I want ALL of our riders safe and kicking.

I know there are those who have used the Kenda and are not complaining, but the safety issue with this tire on the 650 Burgman, specifically, is significant. I REALLY did a lot of research before coming to this conclusion.

Think of it this way...
My 200+lb 4x8-folding HF Trailer, with a GVWR of about 1400lbs, has a 12" tire, rated at 60mph MAX @ 60psi, and a load range of 1800+lb per tire.
It is an 8ply (center, tread-side) by 2ply (sidewall) tire.

The 14" Kenda RS, with it's 332lb load rating at 15psi MAX, is a 3ply (center, tread side) by SINGLE (1ply) SIDEWALL tire.
 

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Desert Rat said:
My question, as it's a MC tire does that mean it will not have the sidewall flex of a car tire :?
Sorry for the late response... just seeing it.

The Kenda RS tire's sidewall has FAR MORE FLEX than the Formoza FD1. Unmounted, it barely took any effort to "sponge" ( -to flex or pinch the sidewall to a bulge) the tire.
 

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What do you think about the Bridgestone Potenza RE92 Blackwall 165/65/14 :?:
 
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