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on these helmets, can you ride with the chin bar up? too bad they didnt come out with a removable also. best of all worlds.
 

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I thinkThat would defeat the purpose of the the helmet, instead of a full face with features of a 3/4 you end up with a off balance over weight 3/4 -
Anyrate I believe the answer to your question is a yes and no. Under 10 or so mph you can ride "flipped up" as speed increases wind drag gets to be a problem.
If I were you I would leave it down except when standing still.
But that's just my 21/2 cents worth :)
 

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I own a flip-up, and Randy is correct. I sometimes leave mine up while pulling out of the driveway under heavy fogging conditions, for example, because it's easier to operate the " main hatch" than the visor with gloves on. At anything over about 10 MPH, the aerodynamics would be unsupportable. Plus, if you crashed, think about what that big long projection sticking out of your head might do to your neck if it caught on something...

I am going to replace mine with a full-face ASAP due to excessive wind noise. I've heard of others who don't have wind-noise troubles; if mine didn't scream like a banshee on the highway, I'd gladly keep it. I like the thing, otherwise.
 

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Lapine Rider, what brand and model do you own?
Ditto^ I'm currently looking at getting the HJC Symax, and from what I've read it looks pretty decent. Hopefully someone can add their 2 cents about this particular model before I drop the $225.........
 

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I have the HJC Symax and have owned it for a couple of years.

You can ride with the chinbar up but after about 25 mph the wind "grabs" the chinbar and **** near pulls your head off! (Don't ask me how I know this.)

BTW, on the Symax, the chinbar is removable if you take off 4 screws. When I go places like Americade I often ride up with the full helmet and, once there, remove the chinbar so I can ride around locally without it.

If you want to see what it looks like, go to http://www.JerseyBiker.com and look at the "Doc does Deals Gap" link. There's a pic of me waving that shows the Symax minus the chinbar.


Ride safe
 

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Lapine Rider said:
I own a flip-up, and Randy is correct. I sometimes leave mine up while pulling out of the driveway under heavy fogging conditions, for example, because it's easier to operate the " main hatch" than the visor with gloves on. At anything over about 10 MPH, the aerodynamics would be unsupportable. Plus, if you crashed, think about what that big long projection sticking out of your head might do to your neck if it caught on something...

I am going to replace mine with a full-face ASAP due to excessive wind noise. I've heard of others who don't have wind-noise troubles; if mine didn't scream like a banshee on the highway, I'd gladly keep it. I like the thing, otherwise.
If you really like the modular style helmet, you should consider the Nolan N100E Classic. I have owned this helmet now for about 7 months and the wind-noise is virtually none. Retail is about $250.
 

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And if you don't have (or want to spend) the big bucks also worth looking at is the Zeuse under 100.00 dollars Dot approved and a good helmet . 8)
 

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My helmet is a Fulmer; I don't usually mention the brand because a) the helmet is a 3XL and I was informed (after the purchase, sadly) that oversized flip-faces all tend to be noisy and b) because even at 3XL it's still such a tight fit that I have to bang the latch shut several times, which is not required when it's not actually on my head. Therefore, I'm giving Fulmer the benefit of the doubt that my big skull might be holding it cracked open a little.

Helmets in my size are pricey enough that I want to go with the surest thing possible, and I'm afraid of what I've been told about all oversized flip-faces being noisy. Last summer I tried on a nice HJC full-face, and I love my 3/4 face HJC that I use in very hot weather. The only way I'll consider another flip-face is if a) someone I trust (like from here; I've developed a lot of respect for this group) has personal experience with a size 3XL or larger, and b) I can take it for a nice high-speed test ride before laying the bucks down.
 

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Don't have any personal experience but have read where lots of folks are happy with Vegas and they cost a lot less $$$$$.
 

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thanks for all the info, I think im going with the removable flip up. I was going to buy two helmets but now ill only need one...
 

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If you get one, I'd like to see a review of it from you.
 

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I ordereed my Symax online last night. Also ordered the silver mirror shield in addition to the clear one. I'll let you know how I like it once it gets here. Sorry to hijack your post CJM, but I was interested in this topic too.
 

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there is no hijacking here, only higher enlightenment... and thanks for all of it...
 
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