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We've seen pics of police scooters....but how about fire fighting scoots?

[url=http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/worldbiz/photo/2003/11/24/2003104174 said:
Taipei Time Article[/url]]Pint size fire engine
Nihon Kikai Kogyo's latest fire-fighting machine, the ''Mist Dragon,'' is displayed at the 2003 Tokyo International Fire and Safety Exhibition in Tokyo, yesterday. Based on a 250cc motor-scooter, the two-wheel fire engine is designed to shorten the time it takes a fire-fighting crew to reach the site of a fire and begin fighting it with a water mist gun and a 60-liter water tank.
 

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Wouldn't that be the "Hook and step-ladder" model??? :lol:
 
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Too bad it isn't painted yellow and white.

Smart Fire Departments know that red trucks are involved in far more accidents :shock: then yellow, white or lime-green (yuk!).

After 30 years as Professional Firefighter, I still can't understand :?: why some people have this fascination about red fire trucks (besides, they look black at night).

Give me a bright yellow Burgy any day! :D

Just my 2 cents!

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That was probably a bear to get up on the centerstand with 60 L of water loaded onto it.
I'd bet that it carries a chemical charge, rather than water. That would eliminate the need for pumping apparatus - and the diameter of the hose and the shape of the device in the rider's hand, would indicate chemical. It's kind of a giant mobile fire extinquisher.
 

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The text wit the pic specifies "water mist gun" and "60 liter water tank". It'd make a lot more sense if it did use chemical charge instead though.
 

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pauljo said:
Obviously, I mist that
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There's gotta be kids that'd see that bike and think, "My supersoaker (watergun) will outperform that water toy" :p
 

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billmeek said:
The text wit the pic specifies "water mist gun" and "60 liter water tank". It'd make a lot more sense if it did use chemical charge instead though.
Water mist (or fog) is good! Not suitable for all fires but probably most. Chemicals are good but have no cooling effect.
 

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aint that thing a Honda Reflex?
 

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And, of course, you all remember why fire engines are red, don't you?

4 wheels and eight men, right?
4+8=12
There are 12 inches in a ruler.
Queen Elizabeth was a ruler.
Queen Elizabeth was also a ship,
A ship that sailed the seven seas.
In the seas were fish and the fish had fins.
The Finns fought the Russians.
The Russians were Red.
Fire engine are always rushin'
So fire engines are always red.



Any conjectures as to why a fire scooter might be red? :D
 

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chuck807 said:
Wow, do they send those out for dog-houses that have caught fire?
Probably mostly a "First Response" for vehicle fires on the highways.

All the cars that get backed up behind a vehicle fire can make it hard for larger apparatus to get through. The Mist Dragon can get there first and extinguish a small fire, or keep a medium fire from getting larger until larger equipment gets there.

It could also provide an escape route for a driver to get through; misters are very cooling.

It could also be good for small roadside fires caused by the many jerks who throw lit cigarettes out their car windows, and so on.
 

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Doctor K said:
That was probably a bear to get up on the centerstand with 60 L of water loaded onto it.
If I'm remembering my conversions right, that would be about 120 pounds. That would be a lot to lift.

Maybe they're using light water. :lol:

(That's a firefighter's joke. vfdcaptain will get it. :wink: )
 

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In the city with all the traffic the fire scoot makes a lot of sense. Lane-splitting at it's finest. It could mean the difference in saving a building vrs containing a burning building.
 

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Maybe they're using light water. That's a firefighter's joke. vfdcaptain will get it.
That's very good Brian! :lol:

In the city with all the traffic the fire scoot makes a lot of sense. Lane-splitting at it's finest. It could mean the difference in saving a building vrs containing a burning building.
In a densely populated city core, I can see the use of a pair of scooters for a car fire, but certainly not a building fire. Forget Hollywood's concept of a building fire. Real fires in contained spaces get going very quickly and require a lot of manpower, equipment and a major amount of water. Yes, you could use foam to cut down on the water, but foam is very costly and only used in special circumstances.

Also, Worker's Compensation Board isn't going to allow a single firefighter to go running in a burning building by himself (even if he looks like a spaceman). It's a team effort that is governed by a lot of rules and regulations.

And even then, it's a very risky job!

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Bumping this for all the great minds on the West Coast that have been dumping fresh water into the ocean.



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Mike - you raise one of the most important issues that must be faced if there is to be sane management of the planetary ecosystem. According to glaciological research, there could be another 23.5 meters of sea level rise before the next ice age, but for mysterious reasons those who are for climate action and those denying the need to listen to people like Greta Thunberg, have yet to organize for what is obvious; the reallocating of seasonal runoff and rainwater to the purifying treatment of constructed wetlands.
A methodical program of diverting floodwater into a network of phytoremediation marshes, and the using of a system of water pipelines and canals to enable gradual restoration of all water tables on each continent, would make reforestation and afforestation projects more viable. California should be asked to help spearhead this project area as part of Sustainable Development Goal 15. We need geography departments at various universities to help survey the depleted water tables, and to determine the trillions of cubic meters of water required to fully restore these hydrological networks.
 

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