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to clarify, "the cleveman". and. djc1. are the same person, had to set up new account when could not get into old one.
Do you want djc1 or cleverman? I can merge both into 1 name.
 

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A slipping clutch will not give you a FI code. It will just slip. The C58 code occurs when the pulley position sensor position does not agree with the rpm being detected by the secondary pulley speed sensor. When it is set the ECM will inhibit shifting. You will be stuck in the equivalent of 2nd gear.

It can be caused by a faulty PPS. That sensor is easy to get to. You just have to remove the plastic under the right floorboard. Just two screws to remove to pull the sensor out. You can test it to see if you can move the plunger smoothly through it's complete travel and if not you will probably need to replace it. You can also test the output with a multimeter to see if it changes smoothly as the plunger is moved. It should produce a voltage between 0.06 and 5.04 volts as it is moved.

The other sensor is the secondary speed sensor. If it is bad you should be getting a C54 code not a C58 code. To get to that sensor you have to remove the CVT as it is on the back side between the CVT and engine.

The other reason for this is water, oil, or some other foreign matter has gotten into the CVT causing the belt to slip. If that is the case the code will probably come and go. If it is just water it should clear it's self when the water dries up. If it is something else then you will probably have to remove the CVT and take it apart to clean it out.
 

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Do you want djc1 or cleverman? I can merge both into 1 name.
will stick with the original username, "thecleveman". note no r in thecleveman. Thanks.
dave, would that be djc1cleverman or clevermandjc1
just "thecleveman". my original username, note no r
Thanks
A slipping clutch will not give you a FI code. It will just slip. The C58 code occurs when the pulley position sensor position does not agree with the rpm being detected by the secondary pulley speed sensor. When it is set the ECM will inhibit shifting. You will be stuck in the equivalent of 2nd gear.

It can be caused by a faulty PPS. That sensor is easy to get to. You just have to remove the plastic under the right floorboard. Just two screws to remove to pull the sensor out. You can test it to see if you can move the plunger smoothly through it's complete travel and if not you will probably need to replace it. You can also test the output with a multimeter to see if it changes smoothly as the plunger is moved. It should produce a voltage between 0.06 and 5.04 volts as it is moved.

The other sensor is the secondary speed sensor. If it is bad you should be getting a C54 code not a C58 code. To get to that sensor you have to remove the CVT as it is on the back side between the CVT and engine.

The other reason for this is water, oil, or some other foreign matter has gotten into the CVT causing the belt to slip. If that is the case the code will probably come and go. If it is just water it should clear it's self when the water dries up. If it is something else then you will probably have to remove the CVT and take it apart to clean it out.
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A slipping clutch will not give you a FI code. It will just slip. The C58 code occurs when the pulley position sensor position does not agree with the rpm being detected by the secondary pulley speed sensor. When it is set the ECM will inhibit shifting. You will be stuck in the equivalent of 2nd gear.

It can be caused by a faulty PPS. That sensor is easy to get to. You just have to remove the plastic under the right floorboard. Just two screws to remove to pull the sensor out. You can test it to see if you can move the plunger smoothly through it's complete travel and if not you will probably need to replace it. You can also test the output with a multimeter to see if it changes smoothly as the plunger is moved. It should produce a voltage between 0.06 and 5.04 volts as it is moved.

The other sensor is the secondary speed sensor. If it is bad you should be getting a C54 code not a C58 code. To get to that sensor you have to remove the CVT as it is on the back side between the CVT and engine.

The other reason for this is water, oil, or some other foreign matter has gotten into the CVT causing the belt to slip. If that is the case the code will probably come and go. If it is just water it should clear it's self when the water dries up. If it is something else then you will probably have to remove the CVT and take it apart to clean it out.
and failing the clutch test is because the belt is slipping between primary and output (secondary ) pulley?
 

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The clutch is on the left side. Not too much plastic to remove. Ledude has good instructions for replacing clutch discs. I had to do mine at 60k miles. Mine won't rev very high with the brakes on and a good clutch. Maybe the computer is telling you the motor is revving too high for your particular CVT primary pulley sensor position and speed sensor.
 
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