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My deal on a 1600 GTL has gone wobbly so mabey a nice scoot to make it up.
Love my burg but new is nice ?

What do you think?
 

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The 650GT is nice But i think the New 2013 Burgman 650 Is a better Deal!! i would stay with that, at least that's my Opinion


650GT 87.3 inches (2,218 mm) Length -647 cc ,2-cylinder 4-stroke liquid-cooled engine, 4 valves per cylinder
650SB 89.0 inches (2,260 mm) Length -638 cc,2-Cylinder4-Stroke, Liquid-Cooled engine , DOHC :thumbup:

650GT 36.1 inches (916 mm) Width :thumbup:
650SB 31.9 inches (810 mm) Width

Seat Height 650GT 31.7 inches Standard :thumbup:
Seat Height 650SB 29.5 inches 750 mm

even that the 650GT has .9"cs more and looks different,But the 650SBurgman is Longer in length

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You're the only one that can answer that question. Just remember you're asking on a Burgman forum, so your responses may be a bit biased. Ride the 650GT, see how you like it.

Personally I wouldn't go from a 650 Burgman to a 650 GT. If I already had the 650GT, I wouldn't go from that to a 650 Burgman either. They're just too similar, and there are so many other bikes out there left to explore. My next bike will be something completely different, like a KLR650 ($6500) or Triumph Scrambler ($8600).

If I wanted something in an automatic with a fairing, I'd wait a few months and check out the CTX700. You can add a tall windshield, heated grips, and matching hard saddlebags and still be below the price of a 650GT (~$10K). 28" seat height, forward controls, and better gas mileage to boot.

http://madrives.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/The-2014-Honda-CTX700-5.jpg

That's just my $0.02 worth, but with inflation, at my age, that's gotta be worth at least $0.08 by now.
 

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Hornhonker said:
My deal on a 1600 GTL has gone wobbly so mabey a nice scoot to make it up.
Love my burg but new is nice ?

What do you think?
What are you looking for in a bike? What do you want it to do? A 1600 GTL and a 650 GT scooter have more differences than the 1000cc difference in engine size.

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I didn't want to ask on the BMW forum because of their owners bias to product. Some here have made the switch.

Honda Canada will not import any 700cc DTC Honda model because of very poor sales VFR wise. 2013 burg will be very nice
but only available early July by order only due to the lateness of the season. :(

Guess a long test ride may be in order.

Being a current burg owner I'm pretty much up on its plus and minus's .

BMW
Plus. 3 year warranty.
Hopefully the expected BMW build quality.
CAN bus.
Heated grips and seat
ECU adjustable with factory flash updates
Euro cvt performance products now available.
Available now

Minus
High seat
Pricey
 

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If money is a factor, compare the cost of maintenance service. And are you allowed (if you'd like) to do any of the scheduled maintenance yourself? :?:
 

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I've been riding a 2005 BMW R1200RT and wanted to eliminate the clutch because of all the increasing traffic here in SoCal.
I eagerly awaited the arrival of the BMW Scooters because I was sort of a BMW fan. Go figure, right? :lol:
I test rode the C650GT the first day it was available and pleasantly surprised at the ease with which it handled itself.
The tranny was smooth but seemed to take a lot of rpms to get going (IMO).
It's really silly to try to compare the scooter to my RT. They are light years apart in virtually every respect.
The main negatives were the much harsher stiffer ride, and the much more turbulent and noisy airflow around the windshield.
Overall wind / weather protection paled vs the RT.
On the positive side, the performance as far as acceleration and freeway speed capability seemed just fine.
The scooter was easily able to provide both comparably to my riding habits. I never pushed the capabilities of the RT. :D
End result, I did NOT buy it.

The main reasons I got my 2012 650 Executive were that it was VERY slightly used and therefore saved me about $4500 compared to the BMW scooter, and the overall ride and performance seemed almost identical to me.
I thought the Burgman was a "safer" bet since it had been out for 10 years and had a well known track record and a huge support base ( :thumbup: ) and I really liked the Burgman's tranny capability with the Manual and Power options. The BMW is 100% pure automatic only. I also think the Burgman looks much nicer than the BMW.

Don't know if this helps at all, but these were my reasons to go with the Burgman. :D
 

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You're the only one that can answer that question. Just remember you're asking on a Burgman forum, so your responses may be a bit biased.
I agree.. not exactly sure everyone comes on the Burgman forum to ask about other bikes.

Go to the BMW scooter forum and ask them :scratch: Let us know what they have to say...
http://www.bmw-scooters.com/forum/forum.php
 

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I had the 650GT for a few days and it did not seem as put together as the Burg. More responsive but as smooth. The instrument panel was very hard to read and the mirror are in too far making them hard to see behind you. Still is a nice machine but for the whole package my deposit has been down on the Suzuki for over 2 months. Just my $.02 worth.
 

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Keeping the burg after a long ride on a 650 GT.

Picked up a K1600GT instead. :cheers:
 

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Keeping the burg after a long ride on a 650 GT.

Picked up a K1600GT instead. :cheers:
you took a test drive!! on the 650GT i guess it was not that Cool, what made your mind.

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Do I want one of those.???????????? ANSWER = NO,.......!!! I am very happy with my AN 400 (2008) and my Goldwing GL1800........NUFF for me.......!!!!!
 

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I had the 650GT for a few days and it did not seem as put together as the Burg. More responsive but as smooth. The instrument panel was very hard to read and the mirror are in too far making them hard to see behind you. Still is a nice machine but for the whole package my deposit has been down on the Suzuki for over 2 months. Just my $.02 worth.
Agreed, also the exhaust is a little too loud.
 

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Gr8ful said:
I had the 650GT for a few days and it did not seem as put together as the Burg. More responsive but as smooth. The instrument panel was very hard to read and the mirror are in too far making them hard to see behind you. Still is a nice machine but for the whole package my deposit has been down on the Suzuki for over 2 months. Just my $.02 worth.

I've heard similar things as well. I went and took a look at the local Beamer dealer one day and was....frankly not that impressed. I'm 6 foot even and was on tip toes sitting on the seat. It sounded good but the panel seemed crowed to me.

Still though...if I had the cash I would give it serious thought.
 

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Returned the 650GT today after a ride back in town. Not bad really. A parting question to the dealer was how often is the CVT belt replaced. Seems it's every
40k km so I'm assuming it's not a daunting process like the burg.
 

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Do Chérie Want A BMW 650GT ?


NO!!!
 

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the 650GT design Reminds me of the Vectrix, looks so much alike from front to back!!!

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I'm here on this forum because i ride a Burgman. I dont want to ride a BMW scooter as they are not worth the money and have a long way to beat a Burgman 400 or 650.
 
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