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On Mitch's YouTube video, he uses a hypodermic syringe thingy to pump oil into the (goofy) vertical filler hole for final drive.

WHERE do you get such a critter (the hypo)? It's coming up to change-the-FD-oil mileage again. :) Thanks
 

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Walmart sell large syringes in the auto section.
Or use an oil can with a long flexible neck.
 

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You can also find them at kitchen supply stores. I just use a hand pump oil can that I bought at Wal-Mart.
 

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They often come with printer ink refill kits so if you know someone that does that.
 

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If you have access to a Feed Store. They sell 500 ML syringes for giving feeding and medicine to livestock.
 

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Thanks- meant to post in 07+
 

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The poor old Turkey Baster gets used for all sorts of weird and wounder-full things, no home should be without one.
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Ralph M said:
The poor old Turkey Baster gets used for all sorts of weird and wounder-full things, no home should be without one.
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:oops: stay away from my windows dangit
 

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Make sure you get a plastic one and not a glass one.

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I use a old quart size empty gear oil bottle. Made of plastic, has the small tip and easy to squeeze. :wink:
 

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hi all! have question about transmission oil change. done everything as it was in knowledge base.about 150ml comes out, I put 180ml of motul 3000 10w-40 4 stroke oil , put every thing back, but now , when running cold-transmission makes some noise .i can hear it more/louder when making left turn. it goes away after 3-5min of riding. what could it be? the change procedure is very simple and straight forward and it's kind of hard to screw something up . appreciate any advise. thank you!
 

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Are you sure it's not the brake pads rubbing?
 

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welcome bob to the forum and please let us know what fixes this in the end,
did you clean the clutch and variator area while you were in there ?
is this the burgman clutch squeal that happens during acceleration but is ok under normal load?
have you had the bike for 10 k or is it new to you ? aka new noise on old familiar bike ?
got any liquid refreshments? :twisted:
 

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Hello! I didn't touch anything. Just a drain and fill bolt.drained, filled up with the oil and that was it. I can hear the noise during acceleration. Appears to be louder, when I'm making left turn, in first few minutes of riding. I was thinking maybe it's a bearing, located on that aluminum cover? The other thing-the old oil viscosity appears to be a lot thicker.i didn't own the scooter, my friend bought it not so long ago. Thank you!
 

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I suppose with all the banging about removing and refitting the the casings you could have dislodged any
dust in the clutch drum and what your hearing is a bit of clutch squeal, when you say acceleration do you
mean it does it say all the way to 30 or 40 if so it's not the clutch but if it only does it up to about 10 or 15
mph ish then it could very well be.
 

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Regarding the old oil seeming thicker, I'll bet the previous owner put in 80-90 weight gear oil.

I'd start by putting the bike up on the centerstand when cold. Get down by the rear wheel and slowly turn the tire by hand. You might hear or feel something with the engine off. It would also be worth taking the covers off first to do this.

There are some bearings inside the clutch and driven pulley that don't always get a good packing of grease. It doesn't come up often, but I've heard of a couple low mileage 400s needing these changed. I'm thinking Part #11 and #22 in the picture from Boulevard Suzuki below.

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And as you said, it could be that bearing that's located in the inner CVT cover.

Chris
 

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First of all-thank you for your replies! I removed aluminum cover once again (took me probably 10-15min max) to double check everything and did what Daboo was suggest-only to find out that the rear wheel bearings are also about to die, but no suspicious noises from transmission. Put few drops of oil where the bearing sits on almunium cover.thinking that this might help me with the noise problem at least temporarily. No changes.now i can only think of this high viscosity oil, which was in it before the change.it would also explain the smaller than 180ml amount (cause prev.owner don't want any extra pressure in tranny).the question is-should I stick with oil that was recommended by suzuki (which I have now intranny) or change it to higher than usual oil? Why did they put a
Such oil into it?
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Regarding the viscosity of the oil, I doubt it did any harm. I'd stick with what Suzuki recommends, which on the 2007 and later model is to use the same weight oil you use in the engine. Here's a quote from eHow.com

Comparing Oil Viscosity
As mentioned previously, gear oil viscosity numbers are not directly comparable to engine oil viscosity numbers. For example, 75W-90 gear oil is about the same viscosity as 10W-40 engine oil; 80W-90 is about the same as 20W-40. (See Resources for a comparison chart.)

Read more: What Do Gear Oil Viscosity Numbers Mean? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/facts_7632044_do-oi ... z2PuS3b8Kf
If the bearing you're talking about is the one that sits in the inner CVT cover, I would use wheel bearing grease, not oil. The bearing actually turns between the inner and outer race. The grease will help it come off when you remove the cover. I wouldn't think the oil would stick around in there enough to do any good.

You should find that bearing packed with grease. Not the entire place it resides, but the bearing itself should have grease in between each of the rollers. There are more proficient ways of packing a bearing now I'm sure, but when I took auto shop in high school we would put a clean bearing into a large bucket of grease and push it down to get the grease in everywhere, then lightly wipe off the excess.

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remember if you do use grease, that area gets hot enough to discolor steel, and the belt relies on friction to work, you want a grease that will stand the heat but stay in the right place so wal mart goose grease smashed all in the cvt probably will give you some interesting but unwanted modifications to accel times and things
 
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