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Curious Pre-newbie (no problem, I can wait till April ) has repeatedly read about the quick starts but no one has suggested any caution needed to avoid spinning the tire or wheelies. Are they possible on the flat and dry pavement?

George
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Wheelies

The short answer is no wheelies but a rolling smoking burnout is posible but rember tires are not cheep so save this stunt for just before the new one goes on.
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George wrote
has repeatedly read about the quick starts but no one has suggested any caution needed to avoid spinning the tire or wheelies. Are they possible on the flat and dry pavement?
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Don't think you could spin the tires -that's just a guess- you don't have a clutch and the CVT I think would slip a little to much..
Now a wheelie I think it could be done easy.
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Pete
Yes and No.

Incorrect Randy - unless you hop up and down while jerking the handlebars and twisting the throttle. id love to see it accomplished.

Correct magyver...a rolling smoking burnout is possible...IF you power brake and roll off the front binders. It won't do it from a simple twist o da wrist.

Yup. Tires cost!

Nope. Wheelies "no play with the burgs."

(someone please say theyve done wheelies!) imo, maybe if you get it just right after coming over a nice rise in the road you might be able to get the front end to lift in power mode.

thats the second sorta short answer.

ciao.
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well what did they say a belt cost's? $600.00 bucks plus the time or experience of having it installed. go head dummies burn out the belt along with the i tires. if you just lay on the front tire along with the front brake and have just a bit of water under the rear tire it may just break loose. and like mentioned above going over a hill and jerking up on the bars just may get the from tire off the ground. but like anything else someone will post that they have done it and then a short time later they will be asking if anyone knows or has removed the belt for replacement.
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Pete
well - how do you do!
I'm just answering the persons question. I'm not their daddy. I wasn't laying a judgment on him. If they want to abuse their equipment well then - thats their business - not mine.
geese bob. relax already. it aint your 600 bucks.
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Haven't done burnouts, but I don't doubt they can be done.

Haven't done wheelies, and I've always been able to wheelie everything I've owned. This one's a no go. (Hmmm? Mebbe if I's t' git th' tar goin' in th' gravel'n ride ont' pave? Hmmmm?) (Gad! Now I'm sounding like peet. :shock: )

Steve
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Brian
GEOBOISE said:
Curious Pre-newbie (no problem, I can wait till April ) has repeatedly read about the quick starts but no one has suggested any caution needed to avoid spinning the tire or wheelies.
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Short answer: no caution is needed to avoid either. Just twist and go.

You'd have to try really hard, and do some really unusual stuff to get a burnout, much less a wheelie.

Too many quick starts will wear out your rear tire faster, though. I'm mostly conservative, and I've got over 9,000 miles on my original tire and no sign of imminent replacement needed. Some not-so-conservative riders have got fewer than 5,000 miles if I recall.
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Tire life

Brian,
9,000 miles, thats good. What tire pressure do you keep? Type of riding and typical road surface.

Thanks,
Mick 03 Silver 650
"Old mans crotch rocket"
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JD
If I ever get my Burgman, I promise I'll find out if a wheelie is possible :wink:
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Brian said:
--cut-- Some not-so-conservative riders have got fewer than 5,000 miles if I recall.
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You talking about me?? :twisted:

Actually there have been several of us, and it was 5000 miles and change for me on the Bridgestone. Did about 8000 with the first rear Pirelli. I do ride briskly, but certainly not wide open throttle on takeoffs. It is a combination of things that governs tire wear - we've kicked that around before.
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Brian
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Mickey Hakel said:
Brian,
9,000 miles, thats good. What tire pressure do you keep? Type of riding and typical road surface.
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90% (a rough estimate) of my riding is on highways. I keep it around 60 - 65MPH indicated most of the time.

I strive for smooth starts and stops. (When I was a chauffeur/bodyguard I was often complimented on my driving when doing that side of the job. No one ever spilled the champagne during my watch! :wink: )

3,000+ of those miles were on my Canada to Mexico & Back trip last summer, where I'd often go 150 - 180 miles at a stretch with the throttle in one spot.

I keep my rear tire as close to 40 pounds as I can, and 36 in the front.
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Tire life

Thanks Brian.

Do you feel that by over inflating from mfg specs 33/36 is giving you better mileage?

What setting do you have the shocks at ???

Thanks for your time.

Mickey
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Brian
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Mickey Hakel said:
Do you feel that by over inflating from mfg specs 33/36 is giving you better mileage?
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Actually, I'm not "over-inflating," although it does look that way.

Suzuki specifies 33F/36R cold pressure for solo riders, and 33F/41R for dual riding.
Since I check my pressure and add air at a service station a mile from my house, or at fuel stops when I'm touring, my tires won't be cold when I check them; I should have mentioned that when I posted earlier.

Also, since I weigh 230 pounds (almost as much as a typical Japanese boy and girl combined) I use a higher pressure in back, close to the "Dual" rear pressure recommendation.

I do think that the higher pressures help my tire's longevity. A stiffer tire has less rolling resistance, thus less heat; and heat is one of the leading contributors to premature tire wear. It's a little harsh going over bumps, but nothing too jarring to my body.

I have my rear shocks set to "3" -- a middle-of-the-road setting between soft and stiff.

HTH.
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allwalk
Pssst Brian!.....You had a typo in your earlier post where you indicated that you inflate the front to 36 lbs. I think this may be what Mike is refering to. I myself run 33F/40R
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I remember a UK bike mag did a test of the Honda silverwing, and they had a picture of a guy wheelying that, so I would guess the Burgman 650 would be possible.......


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Brian
allwalk said:
Pssst Brian!.....You had a typo in your earlier post where you indicated that you inflate the front to 36 lbs. I think this may be what Mike is refering to. I myself run 33F/40R
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No typo. I do run 36F/40R (warm-tire pressure), just as I said.

36 in the front is only 3PSI over Suzuki's recommended cold-tire pressure of 33.

BTW, I just took my trusty Starrett dial micrometer out to my bike.

My front minimum tread depth is 1.36mm -- just below Suzuki's recommended 1.6mm.
My rear minimum tread depth is 2.08mm -- just above Suzuki's recommended 2.0mm.

Looks like I'll need new tires before my next long trip.
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Tire life

Brian,

Thank you very much for taking the time to answer.

Mick
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