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I can't find anyone else who may have posted on this topic. If it's been discussed then ignore this post please :( . Looking at the Suzuki Canada's website I see they have introduced a new 400 called the
Type S. Only colour seems to be Red. Re-styled fairing and lights.
MSRP - $8000 (Canadian). Anyone else heard about this??
 

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I've seen it and if it were availably when I was looking at 400's I would have got one..
I never ride "two up" and I don't care for the look of the passenger
back rest .
The "S" does a nice job of cleaning up and stream lining the back end and I like it .
 

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Hey Arby they had one on display at the December Bike show . It's only a sportier looking model of the existiong 400. Shorter screen, red with new backdrop for the gauge cluster. Lack of passenger backrest. Seems to me they removed a few things called it sporty and are charging you more for it.
 

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Arby,

There was some discussion of the Type S (sport) awhile back. Some of the differences are the short shield, black wheels, no passenger backrest, and available only in red (in the US and Canadian markets). See :

http://burgmanusa.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3184
 

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Sporty 400 is no big deal other than the colour, shorter windshield and the chrome handle bars. They removed the plastic handle bar cover and have exposed chromed bars. The instruments are a differenct colour...white faces with red or black numbers (can't remember) but no other internal mods to the engine or tranny. The compartment doors don't swing out of the way like the standard model...why????
 

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This is the only type of Burgman 250/400 they sell in Japan - no-one wants the standard model. I suppose that's because the Japanese scooter market is a youth market (16-30), where fashion and sporty looking things are much more popular than what they would refer to as Os-san or 'middle aged' looking things. It's not just the youth that like all things sporty over here - look at al the wings and fins on the Lancer Evolution, Imprezza, & GTR, and even the standard aero parts on their family sedans. It's the national tradition.

A new scooter costs close to US$7000 on the road. Used RX7s with 260bhp cost US$7000 - US$10,000. This is effectively the competiton facing the big-scooter manufacturers. Sporty looks are everything over here.

Interesting to see how different opnions and markets are in one part of the world to another. It's easy to see why it's so difficult for Japanese manufacturers to make scooters for all markets as everyone wants different things from them:
- North America wants conservatively styled convenient runabouts with big screens
- Europe wants sporty looking machines in understated colours
- Japan (the market whose sales pay for all the development costs) wants keyless entry, speed sensitive amp and waterproof speakers as standard, and factory customs with exposed metal handlebars, chrome mirrors, and lowered suspension.

This is pulling the design teams in multiple directions. What they've ended up doing is making a base model to export, and then produce a Japan facing model (Type S for Suzuki, and 'C' model for Yamaha) that is essentially a factory custom. Honda hasn't even bothered to export it's new Forza outside of Japan as the business case is too shakey.
Besides, the factory extras - custome seats, mirrors, exhausts, suspension, screens all availabale from the dealership - are where they make the serious profits. Buyers often spend an equal amount on customising the machine as they do to buy it.

If the Burgman 400 Type S doesn't sell in North America, there definately won't be a 650 Type S (black wheels/forks/brakes/analogue dials) as sales in Japan certainly won't fund the costs. No harm done, you can simply paint the wheels black yourself, which I for one will be looking into. It would make my white 650 looks extremely aggressive. 8)
 
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