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Well I guess I should use this category because I asked for it to be replaced.

So after some low life stole my 650 from behind locked gates and wheeled it away on skate board plateforms, and waiting for insurance to pay up $$$ ...

I decided due to house relocation and $2,000 down from payout to go with 250EFI (would have liked 400 but no go in Australia)

So the ride :-

I like it over 650 lot lower seat makes you feel more stable at stop and low speeds, have both feet flat with good bend in both knees.(5'10")
You could allmost (except for back rest) stand up and sit on the back.

Much better travelling through traffic then 650.

It is a little shorter from seat to bars and between knees and dash but not cramped.

My main ride now is 17klms to work (down from 50 before move) straight onto freeway 100kph (but mostly 50-80kph with traffic) then last 5klms or so back to 60kph.

Does 100kph no problems (would do 120 easy most likely 130+ if pushed)
Pritty good take off speed (no where near 650 off coarse)

Very quite idle and running

Good combined braking system (another reason to go with 250)

78mpg (4.5 litres)

Easy to change oil and filter (no panel removal ha ha)

With short cutts app. 2-3 hours to adjust tappets

Bigger main glove box, smaller side boxes

Washable foam air filter under seat easy to get to

As much under seat storage as 650

But first 1,000klms I had a very bad vibration coming up through the scooter from the clutch (on rear wheel) I was realy bad just as the clutch was at full locked up stage (4,000-4,500rpm)

I checked the clutch out (visually) at first service when I drained the oil all looked ok.

Due to holidays dealer has been closing to early for me to get there.

But to my suprise I took my daughter (16) to town to do what they do (shop)
The next day off to work what ? no vibration, could it be the extra load helped seat the belt in or that I still had shock on max. tention.
So on the way home I stopped and rest shock back to 3 (1-> 7 setting), of I go still almost all gone,each day it gets better allmost completely gone now.

Weird a ! ?

That will do donkey

Rgds Greg ...

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Have a look under at http://burgmanusa.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12 bottom of page for earlier test ride.
 

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250 is OK isn't it

Too bad about loosing your 650! That doesn't seem to be a problem here in my part of the world. Since there are so very few motorscooters, the thiefs like to steal the "rice rockets" and part them out.

I know what you mean with the smaller size scooters. I used to own a Riva 180 (Yamaha) and it was great in the city. After riding the Burgman 650 I decided to get the 400 and I would guess your 250 would be similar in dimensions. I thought the 250 was discontinued.

We only have the 650 and 400 so I'm not sure how well a 250 would fit in with the mix. Timothy
 

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From what I read on (I think it was feet forward forum) interview with designers that 400 frame is thicker and that is about all (except bigger mtr etc)

I don't think the 250 is discontinued it my have not sold as well and so removed it from your region.

We have 2 levels of m/cycle liscence 1 - up to 250cc & 2 - open class 250cc up, could be why we only have 250 & 650

And my 650 was only # 7 sold in my state. (W.A.)

Rgds Greg ...
 

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Greg said:
I don't think the 250 is discontinued it my have not sold as well and so removed it from your region
It's a matter of fact...i just bought a Suzuki Burgman AN250 '03 in my country (italy)...and they start to sell it just few months ago... :)

By the way...do you know if there is some shop online where to buy the rear spoiler that "our" scooter have in japan?

Spino
 

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Spino

Only ever scene it on the Japanese site.

But you loose your back rest with it.

I do like the side leg visors.

How are you finding your scooter, excellent I hope ?

Rgds Greg ...
 

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250 Not discontinued

The 250 will never be discontinnued.

Over here in Japan the 250 big scooter market has all but killed the conventional 250/400cc bike market. The 250cc displacement is significant as it represents the bottom step in the licensing catagories over here (250/400/unlimited) and also allows the machien to be exempt from an vehicle inspections - which makes them very cheap to run.

The 400 is still the only 400 single engine scoot available in Japan, and was for a long time the biggest engined scooter in the world. Ofcourse, in the early part of this decade Yamaha and Honda brought out their twin cylinder TMax and SilverWings of 500 and 600cc respectively but niether brought out a 400. Recently, Honda unveiled a SilverWing 400, but it's far too heavy (220kgs) to show any performance benefit over the 250 single engined NSS250 (159kgs) - that I also own.

Rumour has it that Honda will replace the SilverWing 400 (hasn't sold very well) with an NSS400 single (the 250 has sold very well, and will feature a similar transmission system to the AN650 with manual mode) and will replace the 600 (sold well, but had the handlebar fiasco) with a 750 to compete with the AN650 head on.

In short, at the moment the AN400 is still the king of the "all-rounder/commuter" big scooters, the AN650 - that I also own - is for the time being in a "class of one" to borrow their Japanese marketing babble.
 

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Spino

There are two models for both 250 and 400cc in Japan - standard and Type S.

The standard 250 model has a spoiler, the 400 a passenger backrest. Both have silver wheels.
The 250 has clear indicators, the 400 orange coloured indicators.

The Type S models have black wheels, forks and a smoked effect to the exhaust casing, as well as smoked indicator lenses. They have a spoiler - no passenger backrest.

You can see all this on the website:
http://www1.suzuki.co.jp/motor/skywave250/detail1.html

I wouldn't be afraid to order anything you can't get in Italy direct from Japan - they are decent people and will not mess you around. If they say they can do it, they do it.

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That 250 looks like a great scooter. I can see a range of benefits over the 650 depending on your needs. Too bad they're not available in Canada.
 

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lycheed said:
There are two models for both 250 and 400cc in Japan - standard and Type S.

The standard 250 model has a spoiler, the 400 a passenger backrest. Both have silver wheels.
The 250 has clear indicators, the 400 orange coloured indicators.

The Type S models have black wheels, forks and a smoked effect to the exhaust casing, as well as smoked indicator lenses. They have a spoiler - no passenger backrest.

You can see all this on the website:
http://www1.suzuki.co.jp/motor/skywave250/detail1.html

I wouldn't be afraid to order anything you can't get in Italy direct from Japan - they are decent people and will not mess you around. If they say they can do it, they do it.

Lycheed
I just got a AN250 in TW with passenger backrest, that's standard equipment here, spoiler needs to add $ to have.

That's a really nice bike.
 

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Welcome to the BurgmanUSA forums Victor. Glad to have you join us.

Congratulations on the new AN250.
 

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Rod, don't you have the Honda Reflex in Canada? It will do about anything the 400 will do except for top speed. Had one, loved it, just wanted bit more speed for extended interstate rides.
 

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I owned a 250 Skywave for 4 months before trading it in for the 400.I never had any problems with it.Great fuel economy and a good preformer.I just wanted a bit more power for the hills and overtaking which I found a litte hard on the 250 when out in the countryside and on the Japanese highways.

Mind you.Im a bit of a maniac on the bike.I like to be in control at all times.The 250 is a great bike and suffciant for Touring long distances and fantastic for the city
 
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