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I'm in the showroom and am straddling a new 2013 650 and I use my upper body to straighten the bike off the side stand to an upright position. The one thing that I took away from this is the amount of effort it took to move the bike to an upright stance. Is this an issue for any of you long time owners? Yes I am out of shape and haven't seen the inside of a gym for a long long time.

I did the same to a Burg 400 and it felt maybe a tad easier.

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The 650 is not called a lardy for nothing. She weighs 124 lbs more than the 400. 613 vs 489 lbs. She is however a little more stable in cross winds. I have a short inseam and I'm a featherweight at 160 lbs and have gotten used to man handling the weight around the garage. :D
 

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I rode a 400 until a nice 84 year old gentleman insured by Allstate hit me in the rear about 3 weeks ago and spilled both me and the 400 onto the pavement. I now have a 650. The 650 is better in many ways but the lighter weight, ease of moving and fuel mileage are much better on the 400. I find the 650 feels much heavier and I have to be more careful when I use it. I think some of it is because I am not accustomed to it like I was the 400. I think of it as the difference between a Ford Ranger and a F-150.
 

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I've lost a little more than 40 pounds in the last 6 months and now weigh a mere 170 . It take all my body weight to get this Burg on the center stand . My T-max is so well balanced , that it's actually easier to get it on the center stand than my Big Ruckus . It probably take a pretty good size or very strong woman to get the Burg on the center stand ? I find if I jump on it with both feet it helps a great deal .

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Thats odd, i find the 650 pretty easy to get on the center stand.

Look at youtube, there is a clip that shows a small female putting a 650 on
its center stand.

EDIT: Here is the clip, she does it almost without using her hands.

 

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It does seem heavy and as far as the center stand.. I see that video and my issue is the feeling I get that I will lose it to the left if I put all of my weight on the lever to get it on the center stand so I horse it up..
 

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IMHO - the lean angle of the bike on the side stand far exceeds that which is necessary for the bike to be safe and stable.
Compare the lean angle to just about any other bike when parked on side stand.

For comparison, stick a piece of 1" board below the kick stand.
There's still enough lean weight to keep the bike securely planted, but so much easier to pull it upright.
 

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I'm in the showroom and am straddling a new 2013 650 and I use my upper body to straighten the bike off the side stand to an upright position. The one thing that I took away from this is the amount of effort it took to move the bike to an upright stance. Is this an issue for any of you long time owners? Yes I am out of shape and haven't seen the inside of a gym for a long long time.

I did the same to a Burg 400 and it felt maybe a tad easier.

Flameproof suite on. :D
For 11 years.I wrestled with a 1400 lb motorcycle - carried 11 gal of fuel and had a Chevy V8 5.8 liter engine........... Try that on for size and get to the gym.......too!!!!:p
 

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It does seem heavy and as far as the center stand.. I see that video and my issue is the feeling I get that I will lose it to the left if I put all of my weight on the lever to get it on the center stand so I horse it up..
If you have the bike sitting squarely on both legs of the center stand it will not tip over. That is part of the secret to getting the bike up on the center stand. If you have it leaned a little so that the weight is on one leg of the center stand but not the other then it is difficult to get it to go up. If it is sitting squarely on both legs it will go up a lot easier.

What I do is lower the center stand until the legs just touch then rock it gently side to side to make sure both feet are touching evenly. Then I put my weight on the lever and it pops right up.
 

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+1, that's the proper way to do it. People actually try to centrestand their bikes leaned over? That's asking for a tipover/injury.
 

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Getting off the center stand

Thats odd, i find the 650 pretty easy to get on the center stand.

Look at youtube, there is a clip that shows a small female putting a 650 on
its center stand.

EDIT: Here is the clip, she does it almost without using her hands.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VPeDqKSj5c
I would like to see how this small female gets it off the center stand.
 

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I do it exactly like the little girl. Sometimes I pull up lightly with my right hand on the pillion rail. The bike (400) just glides up. Get down by pulling forward on the pillion rail with right hand, and stabilizing with left hand on left grip.

Can also get off stand whilst straddling the bike and rocking back then forward.

PS I have used the side stand exclusively for over a year, and only need center stand for maintenance. I have it removed most of the time to save weight.
 

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At 600+ lbs our 650 is no lightweight but even with a bad hip and knee I experience no problem getting it upright off the sidestand. The further over you lean it based on the rise of the ground the harder it will be to stand up but that is just one of the things we think about when we drive and park. Unless you are really a lightweight you really should be able to get the bike upright. Perhaps a standard bike such as the Suzuki C40 would be better for you....same rated CC's but much lighter and its a real hoot to drive.
 

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I'm in the showroom and am straddling a new 2013 650 and I use my upper body to straighten the bike off the side stand to an upright position. The one thing that I took away from this is the amount of effort it took to move the bike to an upright stance. Is this an issue for any of you long time owners? Yes I am out of shape and haven't seen the inside of a gym for a long long time.

I did the same to a Burg 400 and it felt maybe a tad easier.

Flameproof suite on. :D
Blackcat, the Burgman 650 is a heavy bike. Don't let people talk you into getting a bike that is too heavy for you. Go back and practice lifting it. If it still feels too heavy after you practice some consider a Burgman 400. They are good bikes too and are a lot lighter. They will also keep up just fine with you on it if you are riding with others. There is no shame in admitting that a bike is just too heavy. Use your head not your emotions and remember, the wind feels just the same from the seat of a 400 as it does from the 650.

This is going to be your scooter. Struggling with the weight of a bike that is too heavy is going to take a lot of the fun of riding out of the equation.

Namaste'
Doug in Kentucky
 

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This is going to be your scooter. Struggling with the weight of a bike that is too heavy is going to take a lot of the fun of riding out of the equation.

Namaste'
Doug in Kentucky
I agree. I bought a 400 because my R1200CLC BMW is very heavy and awkward for me. I think I have ridden it twice since I put the scooter on the road last fall (4,000+ miles). I bought the 650 because of condition and price but if everything was equal, I would have bought another 400. Nice used 2008 or newer 400s are hard to find but 650s are easy to find at a good price.
 

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A trick i learned when I was working in a bike shop and moved bikes around a lot !

Try turning the handle bar slightly to the right while the bike is on the side stand, then gently push it up straight. you can do it either straddling the bike or standing next to it.
It's all about leverage.:D
 
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